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This is more of a problem with the simplistic trust model that is typically used with X.509 and TLS, rather than a problem with StartSSL. The type of security t
by oakwhiz 13y ago
This is more of a problem with the simplistic trust model that is typically used with X.509 and TLS, rather than a problem with StartSSL. The type of security that you are suggesting is similar to opportunistic encryption or decentralized trust. Self-signed certificates are intended to fill this role, however, it is too difficult for the average user to use self-signed certificates securely, so browsers put up a scary warning to protect users from themselves. If cryptographic concepts could be securely exposed to end-users, then self-signed certificates could be used securely. In that case, StartSSL wouldn't even need to exist. Unfortunately in the current trust model that is being used, StartSSL has to exist to fill the niche for people who just want SSL to work. But because of recent events, this creates a problem in which the all-or-nothing security model essentially requires that StartSSL be blacklisted because of their business model.
- derefr 13y agoKeeping in mind that while plain self-signed certs just don't work at all given user-behavior, self-signed certs plus TACK have about the same security level as SSH host keys. If-and-when most browsers have TACK, and most sites use TACK headers, the CA infrastructure will become mostly (though not entirely) irrelevant.