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Hey loom.com - please feel the heat. I put all my family photos on your service and everyone hates the functionality. I have no desire to use Dropbox for this,

Hey loom.com - please feel the heat. I put all my family photos on your service and everyone hates the functionality. I have no desire to use Dropbox for this, and lose all that local storage, but whoever makes photos easiest for the moms of the world will win in the end.

rizwan 13y ago
[cough](http://cluster.co http://cluster.co). I work on it. It's less "storage/archival" and more "private photo/video social network".
- uptown 13y ago
  Unlimited and free. So how do we trust that you're also going to be around in a few years?
- subpixel 13y ago
  I think that looks pretty cool, but I feel I should stress that 99% of users don't need _another_ way to organize and share photos - they need a _primary_ way to do that. When folks sync their cameras and phones, they wind up with massive, disorganized mountains of images in the form of unwieldy iPhoto libraries. At a certain point (say, a year after the birth of a child) the task of going in and manually organizing photos, albums, sets or whatever is so daunting people just ignore it. That was the promise of Loom - dump your photos here, and they appear automagically in a timeline you can edit and share. The execution leaves a lot to be desired, as I've suggested.
  - brlewis 13y ago
    I would love to hear what's important to you in the execution of such a service in case I start actively developing OurDoings again.
  - rizwan 13y ago
    Yeah, totally agree about the problem of massive, disorganized mountains of images. A lot of companies shy away from trying to solve that, because ultimately it's profoundly hard to scale it (e.g. Everpix). Loom and Everpix are the closest to really trying to tackle it. Dropbox can "solve" it, as long as you are willing to pay to store your photos in a sync-everywhere folder. Cluster isn't trying to solve the "organize and share" problem, it's trying to make the stuff you share reach the right people in the right context. I think what Dropbox is doing fits their business model really well and adds a beautiful layer on top of your photos/videos in your Dropbox account.
- strict9 13y ago
  Is there any documentation or knowledgebase for this? Looks interesting, but can't determine if it does something I want.
  - rizwan 13y ago
    You can always try the app. Though I'll stress that it is not a storage/backup solution for your photos. It's for creating private spaces with other people where you can share photos/videos.
graham1776 13y ago
speaking of lookout, I just downloaded Heyday, and wished they had Dropbox functionality...Looks like I'll be using Carousel now
- blader 13y ago
  We're working on it! We'll support both - I think we solve different problems though.
gcr 13y ago
For a while, Dropbox gave you a few extra GB simply by enabling "Camera Upload" on the iOS app, even if you turn it off immediately after. I think it still does this. If so, it eases the burden of your dropbox account's space.
furyofantares 13y ago
> moms of the world Sorry to go off topic, and I'm guilty of this myself, but this is very sexist and ageist* in that you are enlisting stereotypes against those groups in order to make your point. *Not that all mothers are old, but that is the stereotype being enlisted, given the context
- mkempe 13y ago
  80% of ShutterFly users are women age 25-50. It's reasonable to want solutions for photo-sharing and enjoyment that are best aimed at that demographic.
  - furyofantares 13y ago
    I am likely being overly sensitive about this at the moment and read subpixel's post differently than intended. I read it as "it should be easy enough for mothers to use" as if to imply mothers need easier software than everyone else. Instead I likely should have read it the same way I'd read "whoever makes debugging easiest for the programmers of the world will win in the end."

rizwan 13y ago

[cough](http://cluster.co http://cluster.co). I work on it. It's less "storage/archival" and more "private photo/video social network".

uptown 13y ago
Unlimited and free. So how do we trust that you're also going to be around in a few years?
subpixel 13y ago
I think that looks pretty cool, but I feel I should stress that 99% of users don't need _another_ way to organize and share photos - they need a _primary_ way to do that. When folks sync their cameras and phones, they wind up with massive, disorganized mountains of images in the form of unwieldy iPhoto libraries. At a certain point (say, a year after the birth of a child) the task of going in and manually organizing photos, albums, sets or whatever is so daunting people just ignore it. That was the promise of Loom - dump your photos here, and they appear automagically in a timeline you can edit and share. The execution leaves a lot to be desired, as I've suggested.
- brlewis 13y ago
  I would love to hear what's important to you in the execution of such a service in case I start actively developing OurDoings again.
- rizwan 13y ago
  Yeah, totally agree about the problem of massive, disorganized mountains of images. A lot of companies shy away from trying to solve that, because ultimately it's profoundly hard to scale it (e.g. Everpix). Loom and Everpix are the closest to really trying to tackle it. Dropbox can "solve" it, as long as you are willing to pay to store your photos in a sync-everywhere folder. Cluster isn't trying to solve the "organize and share" problem, it's trying to make the stuff you share reach the right people in the right context. I think what Dropbox is doing fits their business model really well and adds a beautiful layer on top of your photos/videos in your Dropbox account.
strict9 13y ago
Is there any documentation or knowledgebase for this? Looks interesting, but can't determine if it does something I want.
- rizwan 13y ago
  You can always try the app. Though I'll stress that it is not a storage/backup solution for your photos. It's for creating private spaces with other people where you can share photos/videos.

graham1776 13y ago

speaking of lookout, I just downloaded Heyday, and wished they had Dropbox functionality...Looks like I'll be using Carousel now

blader 13y ago
We're working on it! We'll support both - I think we solve different problems though.

gcr 13y ago

For a while, Dropbox gave you a few extra GB simply by enabling "Camera Upload" on the iOS app, even if you turn it off immediately after. I think it still does this. If so, it eases the burden of your dropbox account's space.

furyofantares 13y ago

> moms of the world Sorry to go off topic, and I'm guilty of this myself, but this is very sexist and ageist* in that you are enlisting stereotypes against those groups in order to make your point. *Not that all mothers are old, but that is the stereotype being enlisted, given the context

mkempe 13y ago
80% of ShutterFly users are women age 25-50. It's reasonable to want solutions for photo-sharing and enjoyment that are best aimed at that demographic.
- furyofantares 13y ago
  I am likely being overly sensitive about this at the moment and read subpixel's post differently than intended. I read it as "it should be easy enough for mothers to use" as if to imply mothers need easier software than everyone else. Instead I likely should have read it the same way I'd read "whoever makes debugging easiest for the programmers of the world will win in the end."