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Lesson learned: Next time just give them dumb ideas and don't stand out.

by jbooth 13y ago

ccozan 13y ago
I oppose this: human dignity MUST be defended at all cost.
- sokoloff 13y ago
  Human dignity takes many forms. Some would argue that it is harmed in some way by office management overseeing silly giveaways. Others would argue that it is harmed by losing your means to provide for yourself through the consequences of your actions. I think the latter loss of dignity is greater than the former.
- jbooth 13y ago
  The poster was talking about an $8/hr temp job. He's already made a decision to trade dignity for necessity. Defending dignity at 'all costs' makes it sound like you've never had to make a hard decision in your life. This is a case where the right move is to keep your head down, do the bare minimum, work on your portfolio on the side and bolt for a better job as soon as you can.
  - bendmorris 13y ago
    If everyone does that instead of speaking up, the situation for the people at the bottom never improves. If enough workers reject their poor conditions, the situation might gradually get better. You can choose to put your own interests first by sticking around and not saying anything or those of your fellow workers by taking a stand. It's a question of values.
    - lobotryas 13y ago
      The keyword is "might". In the meantime, OP is out of a job and I just Hope he has some savings to fall back on because I doubt that temp agency will be looking to take him back.
- wpietri 13y ago
  If the guy can't eat, he will shortly not be able to do a lot of defending of human dignity. If you think it should be defended at all cost, then surely you'll send him the $8/hr he lost by speaking up? Or do you just mean "at all cost to other people"? I agree with your spirit here, but solving this problem requires playing the long game.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 13y ago
  Big words from a poster that didn't just get canned.
- mapster 13y ago
  what bubble do you live in? Have you ever worked a crappy job out of necessity for an extended period?

Lesson learned: Next time just give them dumb ideas and don't stand out.

by jbooth 13y ago

Lesson learned: Next time just give them dumb ideas and don't stand out.

ccozan 13y ago

I oppose this: human dignity MUST be defended at all cost.

sokoloff 13y ago
Human dignity takes many forms. Some would argue that it is harmed in some way by office management overseeing silly giveaways. Others would argue that it is harmed by losing your means to provide for yourself through the consequences of your actions. I think the latter loss of dignity is greater than the former.
jbooth 13y ago
The poster was talking about an $8/hr temp job. He's already made a decision to trade dignity for necessity. Defending dignity at 'all costs' makes it sound like you've never had to make a hard decision in your life. This is a case where the right move is to keep your head down, do the bare minimum, work on your portfolio on the side and bolt for a better job as soon as you can.
- bendmorris 13y ago
  If everyone does that instead of speaking up, the situation for the people at the bottom never improves. If enough workers reject their poor conditions, the situation might gradually get better. You can choose to put your own interests first by sticking around and not saying anything or those of your fellow workers by taking a stand. It's a question of values.
  - lobotryas 13y ago
    The keyword is "might". In the meantime, OP is out of a job and I just Hope he has some savings to fall back on because I doubt that temp agency will be looking to take him back.
wpietri 13y ago
If the guy can't eat, he will shortly not be able to do a lot of defending of human dignity. If you think it should be defended at all cost, then surely you'll send him the $8/hr he lost by speaking up? Or do you just mean "at all cost to other people"? I agree with your spirit here, but solving this problem requires playing the long game.
GFK_of_xmaspast 13y ago
Big words from a poster that didn't just get canned.
mapster 13y ago
what bubble do you live in? Have you ever worked a crappy job out of necessity for an extended period?