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I'm not aware of any long form text on this, but the issue is relatively straightforward. A publisher hires a studio to make a game, which then gets published

by lucian1900 13y ago

I'm not aware of any long form text on this, but the issue is relatively straightforward. A publisher hires a studio to make a game, which then gets published on platforms that actively prevent users from (compiling and) running their own software (consoles, iOS). Since the user is not provided with the tools to replace a library used in a game, the terms of the LGPL cannot be met even if the studio were to release the source to their version of the library. In fact, even if they released the source to their whole game (something the publisher would never allow) the LGPLv3 still cannot be met because of the anti-Tivoisation clause, which stipulates that users must be able to run their own compiled version of the software.

pritambaral 13y ago
Would a clause in LGPLv3 that exempts the publisher/distributor from limitations beyond their control (console/iOS restrictions) help? Also, I think the the user isn't prevented from recompiling and running altogether; a user can get a developer account. Although, I guess that presents an additional cost, something (L)GPL might be against.
- anon1385 13y ago
  >Would a clause in LGPLv3 that exempts the publisher/distributor from limitations beyond their control (console/iOS restrictions) help? I doubt very much that RMS would want to add such a clause. Remember, the GPL and LGPL are political tools as much as software licences. They exist to move the world in a certain direction. Adding such clauses would reduce their reason for existing.
- lucian1900 13y ago
  A linking exception from the library authors could accomplish that, I believe it's what GCC uses. LGPLv2 may also be ok, but GPL licenses in general are complex enough that no one is entirely certain. If the library is statically linked (which is the case at least on consoles), the user would also need the game's source code. I think the restriction is enough to trigger the (L)GPL clauses anyway.
- Guvante 13y ago
  > Would a clause in LGPLv3 that exempts the publisher/distributor from limitations beyond their control (console/iOS restrictions) help? Tivo would just create a complicated enough corporate structure to provide the same shroud for themselves and will then be able to satisfy all requirements.
yuhong 13y ago
I believe that GnuTLS is under LGPLv2 though.

pritambaral 13y ago

Would a clause in LGPLv3 that exempts the publisher/distributor from limitations beyond their control (console/iOS restrictions) help? Also, I think the the user isn't prevented from recompiling and running altogether; a user can get a developer account. Although, I guess that presents an additional cost, something (L)GPL might be against.

anon1385 13y ago
>Would a clause in LGPLv3 that exempts the publisher/distributor from limitations beyond their control (console/iOS restrictions) help? I doubt very much that RMS would want to add such a clause. Remember, the GPL and LGPL are political tools as much as software licences. They exist to move the world in a certain direction. Adding such clauses would reduce their reason for existing.
lucian1900 13y ago
A linking exception from the library authors could accomplish that, I believe it's what GCC uses. LGPLv2 may also be ok, but GPL licenses in general are complex enough that no one is entirely certain. If the library is statically linked (which is the case at least on consoles), the user would also need the game's source code. I think the restriction is enough to trigger the (L)GPL clauses anyway.
Guvante 13y ago
> Would a clause in LGPLv3 that exempts the publisher/distributor from limitations beyond their control (console/iOS restrictions) help? Tivo would just create a complicated enough corporate structure to provide the same shroud for themselves and will then be able to satisfy all requirements.

yuhong 13y ago

I believe that GnuTLS is under LGPLv2 though.