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It's a fair jump from "Anti-gay" Church to WBC. So you go to a hippy church, that's great. You said it yourself, churches vary a lot but most side on the homo

by Cuuugi 13y ago

It's a fair jump from "Anti-gay" Church to WBC. So you go to a hippy church, that's great. You said it yourself, churches vary a lot but most side on the homosexuality being a bad thing.

mcv 13y ago
I don't go to a hippy church at all. In fact, the church I go to is member of what's generally considered to be a pretty orthodox reformed denomination. But it's not American, and maybe that's what makes the difference here. I'm not claiming that nobody in my church is anti-gay. I know of another orthodox reformed church in Amsterdam where some people have objected to a lesbian couple's participation in some sacraments. I don't doubt that in more rural areas, that attitude is more common. But it's not remotely universal. But I wouldn't even count the more liberal church of the late famous Dutch gay TV presenter and vicar Jos Brink as a "hippy church".
- Cuuugi 13y ago
  So you're dutch... that explains your arrogant anti-american sentiment. The only point i am trying to make is you should try to understand a person's culture before understanding their actions. For what it's worth, i'm from Canada.
  - mcv 13y ago
    Because people are making so much effort to understand Christianity here. All I'm saying is that the claim that all churches are anti-gay unless they are hippy churches, is plain false. If it seems true where you live, then maybe that says something about the culture where you live. Don't blame that on some general Christianity straw man.
    - Cuuugi 13y ago
      Modern Christianity has splintered due to the billions of different interpretations on the bible. Just because they don't promote their feelings on the subject doesnt mean they're pro-gay. Homophobia it's core was rooted in religous teachings, no matter which one, they all have a history of Homophobia. Your Country's efforts aren't closer to the truth, they are just more palitable for its people. It may be a straw man to blame Christianity, but it certainly isn't to blame religon in general. I dont think I ever said "all" churches are anti-gay, but most when you really put in the reasearch are. You seem to be more anti-American than anything else, maybe you should travel a bit more, or at least avoid the typical eurotrash circlejerks. Bush has been out of office for 6 years now. Get over it.

by Cuuugi 13y ago

It's a fair jump from "Anti-gay" Church to WBC. So you go to a hippy church, that's great. You said it yourself, churches vary a lot but most side on the homosexuality being a bad thing.

mcv 13y ago

I don't go to a hippy church at all. In fact, the church I go to is member of what's generally considered to be a pretty orthodox reformed denomination. But it's not American, and maybe that's what makes the difference here. I'm not claiming that nobody in my church is anti-gay. I know of another orthodox reformed church in Amsterdam where some people have objected to a lesbian couple's participation in some sacraments. I don't doubt that in more rural areas, that attitude is more common. But it's not remotely universal. But I wouldn't even count the more liberal church of the late famous Dutch gay TV presenter and vicar Jos Brink as a "hippy church".

Cuuugi 13y ago
So you're dutch... that explains your arrogant anti-american sentiment. The only point i am trying to make is you should try to understand a person's culture before understanding their actions. For what it's worth, i'm from Canada.
- mcv 13y ago
  Because people are making so much effort to understand Christianity here. All I'm saying is that the claim that all churches are anti-gay unless they are hippy churches, is plain false. If it seems true where you live, then maybe that says something about the culture where you live. Don't blame that on some general Christianity straw man.
  - Cuuugi 13y ago
    Modern Christianity has splintered due to the billions of different interpretations on the bible. Just because they don't promote their feelings on the subject doesnt mean they're pro-gay. Homophobia it's core was rooted in religous teachings, no matter which one, they all have a history of Homophobia. Your Country's efforts aren't closer to the truth, they are just more palitable for its people. It may be a straw man to blame Christianity, but it certainly isn't to blame religon in general. I dont think I ever said "all" churches are anti-gay, but most when you really put in the reasearch are. You seem to be more anti-American than anything else, maybe you should travel a bit more, or at least avoid the typical eurotrash circlejerks. Bush has been out of office for 6 years now. Get over it.