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>doesn't make useless dodads or chat apps or whatever To be fair, Atlassian makes HipChat, and though it's not exactly the foundation of their valuation it is

>doesn't make useless dodads or chat apps or whatever To be fair, Atlassian makes HipChat, and though it's not exactly the foundation of their valuation it is a pretty significant product.

schneid 13y ago
To be fair, Atlassian bought HipChat :)
- zevyoura 13y ago
  They bought Crucible and Bitbucket too, doesn't make them any less an Atlassian product.
  - voltagex_ 13y ago
    I didn't even realise BitBucket wasn't originally an Atlassian product. What do you think makes it seem so seamless, or what makes Atlassian so good at integrating new products?
    - kisielk 13y ago
      TBH I would say they are "ok" at integrating products. Until last year I worked at a company that used Atlassian products, and while they worked well together there were definitely a lot of points of integration that were missing which we felt should have been there. It's been getting better over time, but it's definitely not seamless.
    - ssmoot 13y ago
      BitBucket/JIRA/Confluence integration could be much tighter. BitBucket definitely feels like an island IME. That said, it's most of what you want from Github at much more reasonable rates. So I'm very happy with it outside of the positive network effects of forking on Github (I rarely see a lib I want to fork on BitBucket).
- allsystemsgo 13y ago
  Can you use HipChat for free for personal use or is it strictly enterprise?
notatoad 13y ago
HipChat isn't like SnapChat though. If you go to their homepage, right up in the header they've got a link to their pricing page. You don't have to wonder who they're selling you to or what convoluted monetization schemes they have, Atlassian makes money because people pay them for a service that they think is valuable. Which is refreshing.
- zevyoura 13y ago
  I thought the implicit comparison was more to WhatsApp, which also directly charges users (SnapChat is, despite the name, not really a "chat" app).

>doesn't make useless dodads or chat apps or whatever To be fair, Atlassian makes HipChat, and though it's not exactly the foundation of their valuation it is a pretty significant product.

schneid 13y ago

To be fair, Atlassian bought HipChat :)

zevyoura 13y ago
They bought Crucible and Bitbucket too, doesn't make them any less an Atlassian product.
- voltagex_ 13y ago
  I didn't even realise BitBucket wasn't originally an Atlassian product. What do you think makes it seem so seamless, or what makes Atlassian so good at integrating new products?
  - kisielk 13y ago
    TBH I would say they are "ok" at integrating products. Until last year I worked at a company that used Atlassian products, and while they worked well together there were definitely a lot of points of integration that were missing which we felt should have been there. It's been getting better over time, but it's definitely not seamless.
  - ssmoot 13y ago
    BitBucket/JIRA/Confluence integration could be much tighter. BitBucket definitely feels like an island IME. That said, it's most of what you want from Github at much more reasonable rates. So I'm very happy with it outside of the positive network effects of forking on Github (I rarely see a lib I want to fork on BitBucket).
allsystemsgo 13y ago
Can you use HipChat for free for personal use or is it strictly enterprise?

notatoad 13y ago

HipChat isn't like SnapChat though. If you go to their homepage, right up in the header they've got a link to their pricing page. You don't have to wonder who they're selling you to or what convoluted monetization schemes they have, Atlassian makes money because people pay them for a service that they think is valuable. Which is refreshing.

zevyoura 13y ago
I thought the implicit comparison was more to WhatsApp, which also directly charges users (SnapChat is, despite the name, not really a "chat" app).