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I do mostly contract work in the U.S. for state and local governments. The RFP's (Request for Proposals) always say something about using HTML5, responsiveness
by iamthepieman 13y ago
I do mostly contract work in the U.S. for state and local governments. The RFP's (Request for Proposals) always say something about using HTML5, responsiveness and the latest web standards.
And sometime shortly after (and sometimes before) project kickoff we always see that a large percentage of their employees are using IE8 and we have to support it.
I make a point of describing in detail what kind of resources will be required to do both a modern website/app using the latest standards and one that will support IE8. I mention that, for the most part, they are mutually exclusive and I will effectively have to build the site (at least the "modern" parts of it) twice and this will cut back on the features I'm able to implement within the project budget and timeframe.
This usually makes the customer take a closer look at their actually IE8/XP install base and I've had several customers decide they would speed up migration from IE8/XP and remove the support requirement for that browser.
Just doing my small part to help kill IE8 - one small government agency at a time.
- dclowd9901 13y agoI would think the myriad security holes ie8 presents would be compelling enough a reason.
- iamthepieman 13y agoEspecially now that there are no more security patches. But if you've never worked for a government agency then you might be surprised at: 1. How little management cares about technology as long as it's working. 2. How competent/paranoid some of the sysadmins are and how severely locked down some of these networks are because of it.
- angersock 13y agoYou're fighting the good fight, sir or madam.
- cozuya 13y agoWhile I commend you for finding a way to communicate to your clients in a way that allows you to not develop for IE8, you're not really being truthful. You can use "HTML5" with IE8 as part of html5shiv.js of course and IE8 doesn't need to be responsive - its a desktop browser. In most cases you can almost certainly deliver an IE8 solution without a lot of extra work.
- iamthepieman 13y agoI admit that I may overemphasize but it's never as simple as just using a shiv. I always run into additional debugging and support issues when building for IE8. There is most definitely additional work required to support IE8.
- agildehaus 13y agoHTML5 is a lot more than the new semantic elements. http://html5test.com/compare/browser/mybrowser/ie-6.html http://html5test.com/compare/browser/mybrowser/ie-6.html