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Except for our government who are paying MS an exorbitant amount of money to keep support up... http://www.zdnet.com/dutch-government-pays-millions-to-extend-mi

by jurre 13y ago

Except for our government who are paying MS an exorbitant amount of money to keep support up... http://www.zdnet.com/dutch-government-pays-millions-to-extend-microsoft-xp-support-7000028116/ http://www.zdnet.com/dutch-government-pays-millions-to-exten...

k-mcgrady 13y ago
Quite shocked that they've struck a multimillion dollar deal to keep support UNTIL JANUARY! Is there a reason they couldn't just move their upgrade cycle up 9 months? Obviously they knew this was coming.
- Tarks 13y ago
  For the benefit of people that haven't had the dis/pleasure of working in a really big company, the large banks / govy places often have a ton of dependencies and at (least) one place I worked at had a custom tailored build of Windows with features they need. They're also heavily regulated and if they can't show evidence that they've done all the required audit checks to ensure they're in line then the repercussions make millions look like chump change (think an investment bank being banned from trading on certain desks). Depending on their priorities and at that size this might be the most economical move.
  - deleted 13y ago
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  - chris_wot 13y ago
    It's worse in government. I knew a very important Australian government department that used four levels of test for a service management system.
- Bahamut 13y ago
  It's not just about upgrading the OS - it's also about upgrading the software built for that OS, which in some cases requires a complete rebuild.
dorward 13y ago
You are not alone. The UK government is doing something similar. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/07/uk-government-microsoft-windows-xp-public-sector http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/07/uk-governm...
- oneeyedpigeon 13y ago
  Looks like Microsoft dropped the ball on this one - it's a government, they could probably have charged billions. Hopefully, the UK government will realise this, and either a) go open source b) get their house in order much earlier next time.
  - gtirloni 13y ago
    How open source will fix it for an organization that can't bother to move from a decade old operating system? In 10 years we'll reading about the UK govt having trouble moving away from Ubuntu LTS 14.04. They only have option b) if they won't to avoid this in the future. Open source or not.
    - oneeyedpigeon 13y ago
      Upgrading an OS OS is a lot cheaper than upgrading a proprietary one.
      - danielweber 13y ago
        Yep, if they run into any issues, just post to the Ubuntu forums, and lazer420 will tell you how to fix it!
        skyebook 13y ago
        Or there's always the paid Canonical support. But the thought of David Cameron hunched over a laptop having some tea and getting assistance from lazer420 in saving the NHS from the next heartbleed is priceless.
amits89 13y ago
Windows XP is incorporated so deeply in utility management systems, that it would cost an estimated US$100 million and several years of work to upgrade the outdated system. Research by EHI intelligence revels that 85% of England’s healthcare system IT systems were still using Windows XP. http://www.dazeinfo.com/2014/04/07/hackers-will-pounce-microsoft-corporation-msft-windows-xp-10-minutes-support-terminates/ http://www.dazeinfo.com/2014/04/07/hackers-will-pounce-micro...

by jurre 13y ago

k-mcgrady 13y ago

Quite shocked that they've struck a multimillion dollar deal to keep support UNTIL JANUARY! Is there a reason they couldn't just move their upgrade cycle up 9 months? Obviously they knew this was coming.

Tarks 13y ago
For the benefit of people that haven't had the dis/pleasure of working in a really big company, the large banks / govy places often have a ton of dependencies and at (least) one place I worked at had a custom tailored build of Windows with features they need. They're also heavily regulated and if they can't show evidence that they've done all the required audit checks to ensure they're in line then the repercussions make millions look like chump change (think an investment bank being banned from trading on certain desks). Depending on their priorities and at that size this might be the most economical move.
- deleted 13y ago
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- chris_wot 13y ago
  It's worse in government. I knew a very important Australian government department that used four levels of test for a service management system.
Bahamut 13y ago
It's not just about upgrading the OS - it's also about upgrading the software built for that OS, which in some cases requires a complete rebuild.

dorward 13y ago

You are not alone. The UK government is doing something similar. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/07/uk-government-microsoft-windows-xp-public-sector http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/07/uk-governm...

oneeyedpigeon 13y ago
Looks like Microsoft dropped the ball on this one - it's a government, they could probably have charged billions. Hopefully, the UK government will realise this, and either a) go open source b) get their house in order much earlier next time.
- gtirloni 13y ago
  How open source will fix it for an organization that can't bother to move from a decade old operating system? In 10 years we'll reading about the UK govt having trouble moving away from Ubuntu LTS 14.04. They only have option b) if they won't to avoid this in the future. Open source or not.
  - oneeyedpigeon 13y ago
    Upgrading an OS OS is a lot cheaper than upgrading a proprietary one.
    - danielweber 13y ago
      Yep, if they run into any issues, just post to the Ubuntu forums, and lazer420 will tell you how to fix it!
      - skyebook 13y ago
        Or there's always the paid Canonical support. But the thought of David Cameron hunched over a laptop having some tea and getting assistance from lazer420 in saving the NHS from the next heartbleed is priceless.

amits89 13y ago

Windows XP is incorporated so deeply in utility management systems, that it would cost an estimated US$100 million and several years of work to upgrade the outdated system. Research by EHI intelligence revels that 85% of England’s healthcare system IT systems were still using Windows XP. http://www.dazeinfo.com/2014/04/07/hackers-will-pounce-microsoft-corporation-msft-windows-xp-10-minutes-support-terminates/ http://www.dazeinfo.com/2014/04/07/hackers-will-pounce-micro...