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Weird that JC in on HN. Completely odd premise to me. I wasn't aware people discounted the gospel of John when considering this. Here are some of basics as I un
by callmeed 13y ago
Weird that JC in on HN. Completely odd premise to me. I wasn't aware people discounted the gospel of John when considering this. Here are some of basics as I understand them (as a christian):
* OT prophecies refer to Jesus as "God with us" and "mighty God" [1][2]
* He said "I am in the Father and the Father is in me ..." [3]
* He said "If you had known me, you would have known my Father also." [3]
* He said "I and the Father are one." and immediately afterwards, jews attempted to stone him, citing "because you, being a man, make yourself God." [4]
[1] http://www.esvbible.org/Isaiah+7/ http://www.esvbible.org/Isaiah+7/ (verse 14)
[2] http://www.esvbible.org/Isaiah+9/ http://www.esvbible.org/Isaiah+9/ (verse 6)
[3] http://www.esvbible.org/John+14/ http://www.esvbible.org/John+14/ (verse 11, 7)
[4] http://www.esvbible.org/John+10/ http://www.esvbible.org/John+10/ (verse 29-33)
Note: no desire to debate these points (too busy atm). Just wanted to point out where some get their stance on the topic.
- BetterLateThan 13y agoMatthew 19:17 - "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God".
- Ryanmf 13y agoI don't know about 'discounting' but John wasn't composed until well after virtually anyone who might have encountered Jesus personally was already dead, near the end of the first century AD. Not exactly the type of source that can be relied upon for accurate, direct quotes.