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"That was then turned into a discussion about the term "possible to live off" which frankly in the context we are talking here is juvenile and unnecessarily ped

by edanm 13y ago

"That was then turned into a discussion about the term "possible to live off" which frankly in the context we are talking here is juvenile and unnecessarily pedantic. Do you really believe that I meant will die from? But sure I am guilty of falling for it given I was assuming at least some intellectual honesty from the person I was discussing with." You know, I'm not sure if you're talking about me or yummyfajitas here, but I think you're being unfair. We had a discussion in which clearly there was at least some misunderstanding. yummyfajitas raised a valid point (it is possible to live on less salary, just with lower standards of living). You made your own point, which is that this is still not a very desired outcome. It took us several posts to realise what everyone was saying and what everyone meant, which is regrettable, but I don't think it's "intellectually dishonest" of any side. Honestly, it's kind of disheartening to try and have a discussion with someone and to be called "intellectually dishonest" and "juvenile". I don't think anyone here is mean or acting in bad faith, I honestly think this thread just had a lot of "talking past each other". Not grounds for insulting one another, surely?

ThomPete 13y ago
the "point" that yummyfajitas made is meaningless in the context of this discussion. I wasn't rasing a discussion about whether it was possible to live meaningfully on 15.000 but rather a discussion about how technology pushes salaries into two extremes and destroy the middle class. It became a discussion because yummyfajitas started nitpicking on "possible to live of". With regards to the intellectual honesty. When you start claiming that "being able to live of" means "to die from" and keep claiming it as if it's me who is using the term in wrongly you are into that territory. The discussion we where having was about what technology does to salaries but yummyfajitas managed to turn it into a discussion about whether it's possible to live of 15K a month and then a discussion about how people in other countries have it worse. But I digress. The little army of libertarians is on a downvote mission so no matter what i say is being sent to obscurity.

by edanm 13y ago

ThomPete 13y ago

the "point" that yummyfajitas made is meaningless in the context of this discussion. I wasn't rasing a discussion about whether it was possible to live meaningfully on 15.000 but rather a discussion about how technology pushes salaries into two extremes and destroy the middle class. It became a discussion because yummyfajitas started nitpicking on "possible to live of". With regards to the intellectual honesty. When you start claiming that "being able to live of" means "to die from" and keep claiming it as if it's me who is using the term in wrongly you are into that territory. The discussion we where having was about what technology does to salaries but yummyfajitas managed to turn it into a discussion about whether it's possible to live of 15K a month and then a discussion about how people in other countries have it worse. But I digress. The little army of libertarians is on a downvote mission so no matter what i say is being sent to obscurity.