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The New Google Search
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- brennannovak 17y agoIt does seem to yield quite different results... but I can't quite notice patterns as to why or how they are different.
- calcnerd256 17y agoMaybe it's indexing the semantic web now :P
- calcnerd256 17y agoLooks like maybe it has more realtime results? Speculation, but still.
- mlinsey 17y agoOK, I'll be "that guy". What exactly has changed? Perhaps I'm merely trying the wrong types of queries or have a spotty memory or am just plain unobservant, but I don't notice any difference. I don't doubt that Google has minor improvements all the time and that that therefore there is, in a matter of speaking, a "new" google search every week or so, but I'm not noticing anything newsworthy. Is this some sort of ironic joke that I've ruined by taking literally?
- sachinag 17y agoI see a lot more grouped results by domain and at least one very heterogeneous result from the domain. Example: http://www2.sandbox.google.com/#hl=en&q=dawdle http://www2.sandbox.google.com/#hl=en&q=dawdle However, this does makes it clear that Google sees http://www.dawdle.com http://www.dawdle.com and http://www.dawdle.com/index.php http://www.dawdle.com/index.php as different pages, so apparently I have some SEO tweaking to do. I'd encourage all startups that rely on SEO to test their best keywords here to get a different feel for how Google "sees" your site.
- ZachPruckowski 17y agoSecond result: 209.161.37.11/dictionary/dawdle That looks like a bug to me - it's http://www.merriam-webster.com http://www.merriam-webster.com, which, in addition to not being a sketchy IP address, is also a nice brand in terms of dictionaries.
- algorias 17y agoSeconded. Some commentary would be appreciated.
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- sahaj 17y agoi see those buttons on both main and the "new" version.
- sahaj 17y agoi'm seeing more total search results.
- pbz 17y agoNo ads.
- kluikens 17y agoMaybe because it's a sandbox project, and not production yet?
- vyrotek 17y ago"Just as Facebook announces internal search for public notes, Google counters with an effort to improve on its existing services. In today's blog post, the company unveiled its new Caffeine search infrastructure to web developers." http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/caffeine_google_tests_new_search_infrastructure.php http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/caffeine_google_tests_n...
- GeneralMaximus 17y agoThe auto-suggest seems to be coming up with longer phrases. In the past, I've only seen 3 or 4 word phrases, but the new one appears to recognize longer sentences, too. Of course, this might just be me, trying to find something new when there clearly isn't. In that case, feel free to ignore me :p Try typing "what's so great about" in the box. Mildly amusing :)
- yread 17y agoDoesn't work for me. Besides "old" and "new" google show the same things...
- fhars 17y agoThe main difference I can spot is that the regular site returns a web page with a search box with a 200 result code, while this version just returns a 404. So this may in fact may have been a joke that has benn pulled in the interim.
- Poiesis 17y agoI got a 404 because I was visiting from Mobile Safari, which redirected me to the /m mobile site which apparently doesn't exist in the sandbox beta.
- andreyf 17y agoPast searches are on top of the auto-complete recommendations.
- yread 17y agoTo me it seems that they improved a bit collapsing same domains. However they still have a lot of work to do - try searching for basically anything and you will still see domains which were on the first page repeated on 3rd or 4th. Annoying. Another difference is the size of the indexed web: Sandbox version: Results 1 - 10 of about 25 120 000 000 for www. (0.22 seconds) Regular version: Results 1 - 10 of about 22 830 000 000 for www. (0.25 seconds) Overall that's not much to write home about
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- jsz0 17y agoStill no way to permanently remove a domain from searches? I have a list of about 15 sites I absolutely never want to see in my search results. It seems like a simple feature to have.
- nostrademons 17y agoTry SearchWiki (click the X next to each result you want to kill). Edit: okay, yeah, that won't work. The OP is looking to kill all of a domain, and SearchWiki is only one query/result combination.
- superjared 17y agoType in "Hacker New" and you'll note that the first result shows the site with it's URL, not just the name. Is that it?
- I_got_fifty 17y agoThe same thing happens with old google.
- sev 17y agoSandbox version: Results 1 - 10 of about 751,000,000 for sex [definition]. (0.11 seconds) Regular version: Results 1 - 10 of about 104,000,000 for sex [definition]. (0.13 seconds) 7 times as many results for the same exact query edit: speed wasn't an improvement, but definitely the number of results are.
- sahaj 17y agothere are definitely more results. the speed, i think, is not an improvement.
- brennannovak 17y agoyah most notably the amount of results is larger but also the actual results are different with every query I have tried. At least half of the first page is always different.
- Sapient 17y agoFor when 104,000,000 results just aren't enough...
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- acg 17y agoPerhaps the new architecture means that more pages are indexed more frequently. Could it be an architecture that supports more "realtime search" (after twitter search). I notice the news is pretty up to date.
- whirlycott1 17y agoThe search results load via Ajax. That's the main difference that I see. Also notice that the URL changes when you type in your search result, but that the query args are sitting behind a # anchor. Normally, those values don't get sent via referrers, which would mean that you wouldn't get that information in the referer header on the server that hosts the search result when the user clicks it. However, in this case, Google is doing HTTP redirects in order to send that information along. At the very least, we can see that the format for their URLs has changed. But they may just be in a data-gathering mode right now. If they turn off that redirect, you won't be able to deduce the search query that the user typed in based on your webserver logs.
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- Sapient 17y agoMaybe they are looking to monetize something else with this‽
- mr_justin 17y agoI'm not seeing that at all. Normal page refreshes, no anchor in the URL.
- there 17y agoodd, the regular google.com has done this for me for quite some time. i thought it affected everyone until now. i just loaded a different browser with no cookies on it and it does searches the old non-ajax way. even though i'm logged out of any google services, my long-lasting google cookie must have this ajax option enabled on the main google.com site.
- modeless 17y agoInteresting, you guys must be on one of those A/B tests that Google does without telling anyone. I certainly don't get AJAX results in the classic or sandbox searches.
- mingyeow 17y agoI think google is still trying to squeeze the last 0.1% of gain in terms of web search. Future value will come in terms of social, recommendations, and user interfaces. not squeezing that last 0.1%
- jrbedard 17y agoIt seems like popular websites like Wikipedia and Flickr are ranked slightly higher in the new results compared to the old. Perhaps it's a more crowd-sourced version of pagerank that they have been training/testing. Since they have been HTTP re-directing results for the last 5 months, they could be using this clickflow data to adjust sites ranking according to users behavior on the search result page itself.
- Tiktaalik 17y agoSearching for my first name brought up my twitter page on the first page, where it never did before.
- frosty 17y agoIts a completely new backend they are using so ordering of results is different. From searchengineland: "Based on the blog post, we can guess that this new infrastructure may include ways of crawling the web more comprehensively, determining reputation and authority (possibly beyond the link graph and what’s typically thought of as PageRank), and returning more relevant results more quickly, although Google’s Matt Cutts told me that the changes are primarily in how we index.Google’s new search is only infrastructure related and includes no UI changes." http://searchengineland.com/caffeine-googles-new-search-index-23823 http://searchengineland.com/caffeine-googles-new-search-inde...
- redsymbol 17y ago> Its a completely new backend they are using so ordering of results is different. Indeed. A search for "velociraptor defense" in the old version finds 72,100 results in 0.39 seconds, while the new backend yields 565,000 results in 0.30 seconds. That's nearly eight times as much practical defensive intelligence delivered 23% more quickly! (ok, ok... I'll shut up and stop eroding the average comment quality now.)
- dc2k08 17y agoWhy do I get the feeling someone's trying to 'emperor's new clothes' me?
- dave_au 17y agoI noticed significant improvements searching for "qt" and for "boost".
- csomar 17y agoI see no real difference, I made some queries and they are (about) the same as my default goolge. may be if you give a difference list.
- jasonkester 17y agoSpooky. I have sites at #3 for "Travel Blog" and #2 for "Software Consulting Services" when you search from Google.com. Neither are on the first page in the new version. I know that Google mixes thing up every few months and that my results dance around a bit. But it's a little unnerving to see something so important to so many people's businesses change so dramatically.
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- vimalg2 17y agoDid my comment get eaten , or don't I have the Karma to post? Re-post: Try searching for any term, then click on the 'Try Google Experimental' hyperlink at the bottom of page to see the ??Broken-rewrite-rule-related?? 404
- jyothi 17y agoOne notable observation from morning watching top searches of a client: A lot of websites which "were" high on SERP based on links are now gone. This also connects well because of the recent change google announced in the way link juice is distributed (to avoid misuse of no-follow attribute and paid links) http://searchenginewatch.com/3633972 http://searchenginewatch.com/3633972