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Originally, I was optimistic about the movement. The rent in SF is indeed too damn high. Sadly it's completely radicalized into an organization which harasses

Originally, I was optimistic about the movement. The rent in SF is indeed too damn high. Sadly it's completely radicalized into an organization which harasses individuals for the crime of spreading capital and demands that Google fund anarchist communes. So much for anything positive (ex. better zoning) coming of it.

noobermin 13y ago
These guys are assholes, but the issue remains a huge problem. I just hope people can see through the idiots to see that the issue that they are complaining about is real.
dragontamer 13y ago
More or less, the same thing happened with Occupy. Its more that SF is a major hub of rebellious anarchists who are utterly inept at running political campaigns or creating anything useful. Occupy kind-of sorta had meaning, until those west-coast anarchists started storming banks, breaking windows, and turned the whole event into a "F* the Police" festival. That sort of behavior scares away the Teachers Unions, the Police Unions... and the many others (who are part of the 99%), and greatly hampers the movement. Nevertheless, you can be sure that the non-assholes are hoping for a solution.
- morgante 13y ago
  Agreed, Sadly I think this movement is doomed to go the same way as Occupy. Sometimes I wonder if these kooks are hired by the real plutocrats and parasites (ex. real estate developers) to undermine the movement. Or if it's not just one giant surrealist joke.
  - bstrand 13y ago
    Never underestimate the left's propensity to defeat themselves from the inside out, to choose a personal sense of moral and/or ideological superiority over coalition building and meaningful progress. Especially in the SF Bay area.
jfarmer 13y ago
In any protest movement there will be a group who wants to turn the disagreement into a zero-sum conflict. The first thing to do is convince the people who disagree with you that those on your side who are amenable to compromise are just as radical as you are. On the other hand, this provides a good opportunity for any group who wants to position themselves as more moderate to do so. Welcome to politics.

noobermin 13y ago

These guys are assholes, but the issue remains a huge problem. I just hope people can see through the idiots to see that the issue that they are complaining about is real.

dragontamer 13y ago

More or less, the same thing happened with Occupy. Its more that SF is a major hub of rebellious anarchists who are utterly inept at running political campaigns or creating anything useful. Occupy kind-of sorta had meaning, until those west-coast anarchists started storming banks, breaking windows, and turned the whole event into a "F* the Police" festival. That sort of behavior scares away the Teachers Unions, the Police Unions... and the many others (who are part of the 99%), and greatly hampers the movement. Nevertheless, you can be sure that the non-assholes are hoping for a solution.

morgante 13y ago
Agreed, Sadly I think this movement is doomed to go the same way as Occupy. Sometimes I wonder if these kooks are hired by the real plutocrats and parasites (ex. real estate developers) to undermine the movement. Or if it's not just one giant surrealist joke.
- bstrand 13y ago
  Never underestimate the left's propensity to defeat themselves from the inside out, to choose a personal sense of moral and/or ideological superiority over coalition building and meaningful progress. Especially in the SF Bay area.

jfarmer 13y ago

In any protest movement there will be a group who wants to turn the disagreement into a zero-sum conflict. The first thing to do is convince the people who disagree with you that those on your side who are amenable to compromise are just as radical as you are. On the other hand, this provides a good opportunity for any group who wants to position themselves as more moderate to do so. Welcome to politics.