Swing is/was verbose for simple stuff, but beyond a fairly low complexity bar it is enormously preferable to the web stack, at least from a developer perspectiv

Swing is/was verbose for simple stuff, but beyond a fairly low complexity bar it is enormously preferable to the web stack, at least from a developer perspective. While Java got somewhere with the whole deployment thing it was never quite as slick as the web, and that's the killer aspect of the web really. What is funny about the web these days is how they're very slowly reinventing all the things NeXT were doing in the 80s, only using a lot more memory and CPU in the process. Ironic given it started on a NeXT in the first place.