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You're claim has minimal basis in history. The number of sadists tormenting their serfs is surely non-zero, but also not systemic. For one thing, lords DEPEND o

You're claim has minimal basis in history. The number of sadists tormenting their serfs is surely non-zero, but also not systemic. For one thing, lords DEPEND on their serfs for their well being. Their serfs economic output is crucial.

JoeAltmaier 13y ago
Yeah like historical omnipotent despots cared about their cattle or were smart modern people who understood economics. Every storey about feudalism is about the sadism. Why? Because its exciting I'm sure, but also because it was an absolutely common theme?
johnchristopher 13y ago
Just like slave merchants and slave masters depend on their slaves for their well being. Regarding the minimal basis in history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom#Rights_of_serfdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom#Rights_of_serfdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grand_Knout.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grand_Knout.gif Punishment with a knout. Whipping was a common punishment for Russian serfs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom#Slaves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom#Slaves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_1956_Supplementary_Convention_on_the_Abolition_of_Slavery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_1956_Supplementa...
malkia 13y ago
Not directly part of any other feudal system, but Ottoman's empire has established the order of jannisaries by taking young male boys from the enslaved nation - these were trained to be the most ferocious fighters, and even the sultan had to comply occasionally with their demands. Hardly a thing you can see in an capitalistic system.
- walshemj 13y ago
  No that is the common mistake of employing mercenarys and finding out to late that have taken over as the Indian Princes found to their cost when they got to British and french to fight for them. Then problems the Roman empire had with the Praetorians deciding who was to be emperor is a related problem

JoeAltmaier 13y ago

Yeah like historical omnipotent despots cared about their cattle or were smart modern people who understood economics. Every storey about feudalism is about the sadism. Why? Because its exciting I'm sure, but also because it was an absolutely common theme?

johnchristopher 13y ago

Just like slave merchants and slave masters depend on their slaves for their well being. Regarding the minimal basis in history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom#Rights_of_serfdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom#Rights_of_serfdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grand_Knout.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grand_Knout.gif Punishment with a knout. Whipping was a common punishment for Russian serfs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom#Slaves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom#Slaves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_1956_Supplementary_Convention_on_the_Abolition_of_Slavery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_1956_Supplementa...

malkia 13y ago

Not directly part of any other feudal system, but Ottoman's empire has established the order of jannisaries by taking young male boys from the enslaved nation - these were trained to be the most ferocious fighters, and even the sultan had to comply occasionally with their demands. Hardly a thing you can see in an capitalistic system.

walshemj 13y ago
No that is the common mistake of employing mercenarys and finding out to late that have taken over as the Indian Princes found to their cost when they got to British and french to fight for them. Then problems the Roman empire had with the Praetorians deciding who was to be emperor is a related problem