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He has apologized for causing "pain". It looks like he does not support gay marriage today. He does support equality. He holds more conservative viewpoints th

He has apologized for causing "pain". It looks like he does not support gay marriage today. He does support equality. He holds more conservative viewpoints than most people. He is also a white male in his 50's born in Pittsburgh. The point is he has his position. It may change. He isn't involved in the LGBT community, so he probably is not exposed to this issue causing pain until now. It wasn't going to affect the policy of equality within Mozilla. We can treat him with respect & have respectful dialog or we can coerce him to change his mind with public shaming & bullying tactics. I don't think the ends justify the means. Respectful discourse would be more effective and would make all of us better. --- Downvoting is censorship. The post moves down and becomes hard to read & otherwise deemphasized. It also discourages further dialog by punishing someone who is expressing their opinion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship

vidarh 13y ago
> It looks like he does not support gay marriage today. He does support equality. Which is it? The two (not supporting gay marriage, and supporting equality) are mutually incompatible. > It wasn't going to affect the policy of equality within Mozilla. Do you understand why a lot of people have concerns that this might not be true, whether openly, or indirectly through decisions he might have made? Or have concerns that his views may send a signal to a lot of people that he would not welcome them the way he would welcome other potential hires?
- briantakita 13y ago
  > Which is it? The two (not supporting gay marriage, and supporting equality) are mutually incompatible. He supports equality at a lower resolution (in abstract) than most of us in some areas. We all have moral blind spots. He has his life experience. You can tell that his intent is good by his effort and humility. He also has a reputation of being forthright and not deceptive. > Do you understand why a lot of people have concerns that this might not be true, whether openly, or indirectly through decisions he might have made? That is true. He also recognized this bias and promoted a system of oversight to ensure that the culture is inclusive. Everybody has bias. We need to set up our systems to account for that reality.
- obtorto 13y ago
  > Which is it? The two (not supporting gay marriage, and supporting equality) are mutually incompatible. Please see my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7533691 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7533691

vidarh 13y ago

> It looks like he does not support gay marriage today. He does support equality. Which is it? The two (not supporting gay marriage, and supporting equality) are mutually incompatible. > It wasn't going to affect the policy of equality within Mozilla. Do you understand why a lot of people have concerns that this might not be true, whether openly, or indirectly through decisions he might have made? Or have concerns that his views may send a signal to a lot of people that he would not welcome them the way he would welcome other potential hires?

briantakita 13y ago
> Which is it? The two (not supporting gay marriage, and supporting equality) are mutually incompatible. He supports equality at a lower resolution (in abstract) than most of us in some areas. We all have moral blind spots. He has his life experience. You can tell that his intent is good by his effort and humility. He also has a reputation of being forthright and not deceptive. > Do you understand why a lot of people have concerns that this might not be true, whether openly, or indirectly through decisions he might have made? That is true. He also recognized this bias and promoted a system of oversight to ensure that the culture is inclusive. Everybody has bias. We need to set up our systems to account for that reality.
obtorto 13y ago
> Which is it? The two (not supporting gay marriage, and supporting equality) are mutually incompatible. Please see my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7533691 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7533691