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I am not sure I buy the disruption by piracy argument, and I hope it is false. If correct, it means we will start to lose the high quality entertainment I enjoy

I am not sure I buy the disruption by piracy argument, and I hope it is false. If correct, it means we will start to lose the high quality entertainment I enjoy.

frankydp 13y ago
I believe the implication was that by reducing the barriers to entry for piracy, the "old" market will feel much higher pressure to reconsider their market and delivery models. The market shift will probably go Large Network Channel(now) > Multi Indie Production Shops(near future) > Large Distribution Houses supporting Indie Shops(future). If that makes since at all. I see the directors and creators having a much higher controlling interest in Movies and Series in the future, but who knows.
- nemothekid 13y ago
  I don't follow. What is the Napster version of this? As far as I can tell, Music is still supported by the large players, and revenue-through-distrobution-wise, its indies who seem to have suffered the most.
w1ntermute 13y ago
> If correct, it means we will start to lose the high quality entertainment I enjoy. That didn't happen in the music industry. It was disrupted by piracy, but music today is no worse than it was 10 or 15 years ago.
- badman_ting 13y ago
  That industry is in a shambles, I don't think anyone should be hoping that other entertainment industries undergo the same transformation.
- bsder 13y ago
  > That didn't happen in the music industry. It was disrupted by piracy, but music today is no worse than it was 10 or 15 years ago. I'm pretty sure I disagree with that. And this isn't just a "music in my day was better than the garbage kids these days listen to..." Look at the complaints about SXSW this year. Why is Lady Gaga ... someone who is nominally HUGE in pop music .. even bothering with something so small? Why did Metallica play such tiny-ass venue and associate with Comicon (hint: think they've sold out something like Qualcomm Stadium recently?)? Look at the ticket figures for Beyonce vs Madonna even after her prime? Why are Taylor Swift and Selena so important (answer: teenage girls and their mothers spend money on music while nobody else does)? Why are opera and symphony houses closing their doors? Take a look at the Experience Hexndrix Tour: http://www.experiencehendrixtour.com/artists.php http://www.experiencehendrixtour.com/artists.php Where's the next Johnny Lang or Kenny Wayne Shepherd? I would argue that the diversity of the music industry died fairly horribly. Now, I don't think the disruption was purely piracy. The big problem is that males (and now an increasing number of females) buy video games instead of music. How much can you get for music today? Even if you managed to extract $100 per year out of every American, that's only a $30 billion industry. That's what ... 2 or 3 blockbuster video games of revenue? Now cut that by an order of magnitude and remove the amounts that famous bands like the Rolling Stones take (quite a bit), and you've got an industry of absolutely peanuts.

I am not sure I buy the disruption by piracy argument, and I hope it is false. If correct, it means we will start to lose the high quality entertainment I enjoy.

frankydp 13y ago

I believe the implication was that by reducing the barriers to entry for piracy, the "old" market will feel much higher pressure to reconsider their market and delivery models. The market shift will probably go Large Network Channel(now) > Multi Indie Production Shops(near future) > Large Distribution Houses supporting Indie Shops(future). If that makes since at all. I see the directors and creators having a much higher controlling interest in Movies and Series in the future, but who knows.

nemothekid 13y ago
I don't follow. What is the Napster version of this? As far as I can tell, Music is still supported by the large players, and revenue-through-distrobution-wise, its indies who seem to have suffered the most.

w1ntermute 13y ago

> If correct, it means we will start to lose the high quality entertainment I enjoy. That didn't happen in the music industry. It was disrupted by piracy, but music today is no worse than it was 10 or 15 years ago.

badman_ting 13y ago
That industry is in a shambles, I don't think anyone should be hoping that other entertainment industries undergo the same transformation.
bsder 13y ago
> That didn't happen in the music industry. It was disrupted by piracy, but music today is no worse than it was 10 or 15 years ago. I'm pretty sure I disagree with that. And this isn't just a "music in my day was better than the garbage kids these days listen to..." Look at the complaints about SXSW this year. Why is Lady Gaga ... someone who is nominally HUGE in pop music .. even bothering with something so small? Why did Metallica play such tiny-ass venue and associate with Comicon (hint: think they've sold out something like Qualcomm Stadium recently?)? Look at the ticket figures for Beyonce vs Madonna even after her prime? Why are Taylor Swift and Selena so important (answer: teenage girls and their mothers spend money on music while nobody else does)? Why are opera and symphony houses closing their doors? Take a look at the Experience Hexndrix Tour: http://www.experiencehendrixtour.com/artists.php http://www.experiencehendrixtour.com/artists.php Where's the next Johnny Lang or Kenny Wayne Shepherd? I would argue that the diversity of the music industry died fairly horribly. Now, I don't think the disruption was purely piracy. The big problem is that males (and now an increasing number of females) buy video games instead of music. How much can you get for music today? Even if you managed to extract $100 per year out of every American, that's only a $30 billion industry. That's what ... 2 or 3 blockbuster video games of revenue? Now cut that by an order of magnitude and remove the amounts that famous bands like the Rolling Stones take (quite a bit), and you've got an industry of absolutely peanuts.