>"That's not to say that they are always all sunshine and lollipops, but I guess it's too difficult for some people to accept that unions can actually also be a

>"That's not to say that they are always all sunshine and lollipops, but I guess it's too difficult for some people to accept that unions can actually also be a positive thing too." Absolutely. Whenever I see an anti-union sentiment from people in tech I have to wonder how many have actually participated in one versus second-hand impressions drawn from stories about autoworkers or dealings with carrier technicians? I've been a due-paying union member and even dabbled as a shop steward. I've also been a contractor and employee for public and private sector. I can draw on my time in the union (and out, for that matter) to match stories of sickening apathy and mediocrity with anyone, but I've also witnessed the good that can come of it. The key is balance and bad things happen whenever the scale tips too far in either direction. As I said here the other day [0], the rank and file of tech seem largely content with allowing that balance to continue slip. 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7494204 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7494204