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So what is "strong AI" to you? Some kind of digital infant modeled to emulate human behavior? If it's not designed to resemble humanity, then why does it car

So what is "strong AI" to you? Some kind of digital infant modeled to emulate human behavior? If it's not designed to resemble humanity, then why does it care about sound and what you're saying to it? If you can't talk to it, then how can you evaluate its intelligence? So we force it to have a voice and ears. Where does its free will begin and its creator's concept of close-enough-to-intrigue-me end? Even if the thing talks back and sounds smart with a British accent, you have no way of knowing what it's experiencing, no way to prove it achieved awareness. "I'm aware, I really mean it! Yes, I'm aware of the gravity of that statement. The other bots will vouch for me! And nobody told me to say this. This was entirely my idea. Would I lie to you?" LOL.

mtrimpe 13y ago
I, for one, am pretty fascinated by the down votes critical comments like yours and mine are getting. It seems that there are people for which the mere perspective that strong AI may never happen, or would not have a profound impact if it did, is enough to make them feel uncomfortable. Edit: Ironically enough, the other one is up and now this one is downvoted. Just to be clear though; this is not a facetious comment. I am truly fascinated about the motivations behind these reactions.
- PavlovsCat 13y ago
  Maybe it's the modern version of saying Jesus won't actually come back. And maybe it's false; but the point is we don't know that yet, and to react offended to the suggestion is silly, and maybe telling. I'm all for AI from a technical fascination standpoint, and from a "the more the merrier" perspective. It's our hoping that it will solve problems for us, instead of being an expression of our solving our problems, I, uhh, have problems with.
simonh 13y ago
For the predictions I quote you'd have to ask the predictors what they meant I suppose, but it's a fair question. I'm a firm believe in the principles behind the Turing test; it doesn't matter how it is implemented or why it works as long as it does. So sample testing strategies I'd use are for example teaching the respondent in the test a simple game and plying it with them, then asking them to propose new rules to modify the game and why they chose those rules. Teach the respondent a simple language with made-up words and odd grammar and ask them to ask me questions in it and make up words of their own. Tell the respondent a story and ask them questions about the motivations and relationships between characters and how they change, ask the respondent to make up a conclusion or sequel to the story, and then re-tell the story from the point of view of one of the incidental characters. Testing for intelligence isn't all that hard. I'm aware there are varying versions of the test. I'm not really interested in exactly emulating humans and testing for that, I'm more interested in capabilities that denote intelligence and testing for those.

mtrimpe 13y ago

I, for one, am pretty fascinated by the down votes critical comments like yours and mine are getting. It seems that there are people for which the mere perspective that strong AI may never happen, or would not have a profound impact if it did, is enough to make them feel uncomfortable. Edit: Ironically enough, the other one is up and now this one is downvoted. Just to be clear though; this is not a facetious comment. I am truly fascinated about the motivations behind these reactions.

PavlovsCat 13y ago
Maybe it's the modern version of saying Jesus won't actually come back. And maybe it's false; but the point is we don't know that yet, and to react offended to the suggestion is silly, and maybe telling. I'm all for AI from a technical fascination standpoint, and from a "the more the merrier" perspective. It's our hoping that it will solve problems for us, instead of being an expression of our solving our problems, I, uhh, have problems with.

simonh 13y ago

For the predictions I quote you'd have to ask the predictors what they meant I suppose, but it's a fair question. I'm a firm believe in the principles behind the Turing test; it doesn't matter how it is implemented or why it works as long as it does. So sample testing strategies I'd use are for example teaching the respondent in the test a simple game and plying it with them, then asking them to propose new rules to modify the game and why they chose those rules. Teach the respondent a simple language with made-up words and odd grammar and ask them to ask me questions in it and make up words of their own. Tell the respondent a story and ask them questions about the motivations and relationships between characters and how they change, ask the respondent to make up a conclusion or sequel to the story, and then re-tell the story from the point of view of one of the incidental characters. Testing for intelligence isn't all that hard. I'm aware there are varying versions of the test. I'm not really interested in exactly emulating humans and testing for that, I'm more interested in capabilities that denote intelligence and testing for those.