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The 20th century is replete with examples of women entering traditionally male professional roles. None of these industries is hostile toward men; in fact, ofte

by nmrm 13y ago

The 20th century is replete with examples of women entering traditionally male professional roles. None of these industries is hostile toward men; in fact, often the opposite. The scenario you suggest as plausible is in fact quite unprecedented. What makes Computer Science so different from all these other fields and professions?

facepalm 13y ago
I'd say most industries are as hostile to men as they are to women. Books about the sickness of organizations are plentiful. I don't understand your question about "what is different about computer science". I tell you what is different: you don't have to crawl in the mud for computer science, and there are a couple of overblown stories about IT billionaires having parties in fancy offices. There are fewer stories about cubicles in the cellar. Edit: were you referring to the all-women IT company? They do exist now. And there are plenty of organizations organizing women only IT events for women. Like RailsGirls. So if they are successful, why wouldn't they lead to more women only IT companies?
- nmrm 13y ago
  > were you referring to the all-women IT company? They do exist now. And there are plenty of organizations organizing women only IT events for women. I was referring the conclusion that these events/organizations significantly harm men. > So if they are successful, why wouldn't they lead to more women only IT companies? Because the whole of 20th century labor history, which is replete with counter-examples. Women supporting other women in male-dominated professions, as a matter of observable fact, does not generally lead to discrimination against men in the work place.
  - facepalm 12y ago
    Where there many "women only" initiatives for male-dominated professions? "Girl Engineers" or what? The discrimination is already happening with the women only events. Why should it suddenly stop afterwards? Especially since these are women who seem to be uncomfortable around men. Why should they then hire men into their IT company?

by nmrm 13y ago

facepalm 13y ago

I'd say most industries are as hostile to men as they are to women. Books about the sickness of organizations are plentiful. I don't understand your question about "what is different about computer science". I tell you what is different: you don't have to crawl in the mud for computer science, and there are a couple of overblown stories about IT billionaires having parties in fancy offices. There are fewer stories about cubicles in the cellar. Edit: were you referring to the all-women IT company? They do exist now. And there are plenty of organizations organizing women only IT events for women. Like RailsGirls. So if they are successful, why wouldn't they lead to more women only IT companies?

nmrm 13y ago
> were you referring to the all-women IT company? They do exist now. And there are plenty of organizations organizing women only IT events for women. I was referring the conclusion that these events/organizations significantly harm men. > So if they are successful, why wouldn't they lead to more women only IT companies? Because the whole of 20th century labor history, which is replete with counter-examples. Women supporting other women in male-dominated professions, as a matter of observable fact, does not generally lead to discrimination against men in the work place.
- facepalm 12y ago
  Where there many "women only" initiatives for male-dominated professions? "Girl Engineers" or what? The discrimination is already happening with the women only events. Why should it suddenly stop afterwards? Especially since these are women who seem to be uncomfortable around men. Why should they then hire men into their IT company?