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More ironic when you consider: "Obama Says He Is Against Same-Sex Marriage" http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/11/obama-on-mtv-i/ http://abcnews.go.com/b

More ironic when you consider: "Obama Says He Is Against Same-Sex Marriage" http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/11/obama-on-mtv-i/ http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/11/obama-on-mtv-i/

spikels 13y ago
So was Hillary Clinton until a year ago. And they both repeatedly raised money to candidates that were against same-sex marriage. I guess neither of them are qualified to run Mozilla. http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/thecaucus/2013/03/18/hillary-clinton-endorses-same-sex-marriage/ http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/thecaucus/2013/03/18/hillary...
- growupkids 13y ago
  Well they're either hypocrites, or (ahem...) they learned.
  - spikels 13y ago
    They "evolved" like pond scum!
growupkids 13y ago
Yeah no kidding. I remember dem friends ardently trying to convince me that it was pro gay to be anti-gay marriage and pro-civil union. No, you're not pro gay, you're just trotting out talking points so you can appear to have to both way, ala Bill Clinton's Dont Ask Don't Tell. Separate but Equal. I'm so tired of the double talk. Look, if you truly believe in human rights, then you have to respect people's choices of what to do with their bodies. If you can't don't that, then you think you know better and want to tell people what to do with their bodies. I just can't get behind that. I'm not perfect, so who am I to tell someone else to do with their body if it's not hurting them? Meh, politicians.
smtddr 13y ago
FWIW, I never believed Obama when he said that. I just assumed he had to say it for the votes. Eich is a different story; for a modern tech company with a presence in SF, which is super-pro-LGBT. Also I see mozilla more as a family than a company(I'm sure it's due to branding/marketing) and having a person who +++donated funds+++ to prop8 as the CEO was a very awkward concept for me to accept. It's one thing to believe different things than I do, it's another thing altogether to ///donate funds/// to prevent something that really does him no harm yet inconveniences/saddens others. To me, that's an ethically corrupt action. Then he becomes the CEO of a company that is soaked in a culture of leftwing pro-LGBT. It's the donation that crosses the line for me. Furthermore, it makes me wonder if he'd use his legally-obtained funds as Moz-CEO to do similar, more significant, donations in the future to other laws that would conflict with the Moz culture. I guess you have to decide when opinion is just that, or something more harmful. A KKK member shouldn't be leader of the BlackGirlsCode effort and Eich shouldn't be the head of Mozilla. Of course, this analogy shows that I think of Mozilla as a very open-minded, liberal, pro-LGBT promoter rather than just a company that makes software. I can't convince anyone to see mozilla the way I do, but somehow they've put that spell on me... and clearly on enough people to cause this whole ordeal and resulting fallout.
- interstitial 13y ago
  So you say you are a witch smeller? You can smell Clinton is pro LGBT, and Moz-CEO was not. Good set of nostrils you got there.

More ironic when you consider: "Obama Says He Is Against Same-Sex Marriage" http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/11/obama-on-mtv-i/ http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/11/obama-on-mtv-i/

spikels 13y ago

So was Hillary Clinton until a year ago. And they both repeatedly raised money to candidates that were against same-sex marriage. I guess neither of them are qualified to run Mozilla. http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/thecaucus/2013/03/18/hillary-clinton-endorses-same-sex-marriage/ http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/thecaucus/2013/03/18/hillary...

growupkids 13y ago
Well they're either hypocrites, or (ahem...) they learned.
- spikels 13y ago
  They "evolved" like pond scum!

growupkids 13y ago

Yeah no kidding. I remember dem friends ardently trying to convince me that it was pro gay to be anti-gay marriage and pro-civil union. No, you're not pro gay, you're just trotting out talking points so you can appear to have to both way, ala Bill Clinton's Dont Ask Don't Tell. Separate but Equal. I'm so tired of the double talk. Look, if you truly believe in human rights, then you have to respect people's choices of what to do with their bodies. If you can't don't that, then you think you know better and want to tell people what to do with their bodies. I just can't get behind that. I'm not perfect, so who am I to tell someone else to do with their body if it's not hurting them? Meh, politicians.

smtddr 13y ago

FWIW, I never believed Obama when he said that. I just assumed he had to say it for the votes. Eich is a different story; for a modern tech company with a presence in SF, which is super-pro-LGBT. Also I see mozilla more as a family than a company(I'm sure it's due to branding/marketing) and having a person who +++donated funds+++ to prop8 as the CEO was a very awkward concept for me to accept. It's one thing to believe different things than I do, it's another thing altogether to ///donate funds/// to prevent something that really does him no harm yet inconveniences/saddens others. To me, that's an ethically corrupt action. Then he becomes the CEO of a company that is soaked in a culture of leftwing pro-LGBT. It's the donation that crosses the line for me. Furthermore, it makes me wonder if he'd use his legally-obtained funds as Moz-CEO to do similar, more significant, donations in the future to other laws that would conflict with the Moz culture. I guess you have to decide when opinion is just that, or something more harmful. A KKK member shouldn't be leader of the BlackGirlsCode effort and Eich shouldn't be the head of Mozilla. Of course, this analogy shows that I think of Mozilla as a very open-minded, liberal, pro-LGBT promoter rather than just a company that makes software. I can't convince anyone to see mozilla the way I do, but somehow they've put that spell on me... and clearly on enough people to cause this whole ordeal and resulting fallout.

interstitial 13y ago
So you say you are a witch smeller? You can smell Clinton is pro LGBT, and Moz-CEO was not. Good set of nostrils you got there.