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This is so upsetting, it's infuriating. Here we had a wonderful chance for someone brilliant like Eich to lead one of the most important organizations in defend
by pvnick 13y ago
This is so upsetting, it's infuriating. Here we had a wonderful chance for someone brilliant like Eich to lead one of the most important organizations in defending us against looming omnipresent state surveillance, and a bunch of social justice warriors went and ruined it. Pat yourselves on the back guys, you won!
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- visualR 13y agoSend him to the concentration camp of tolerance!
- thenmar 13y agoIf you don't tolerate my bigotry, you're intolerant!
- mwfunk 13y agoI don't know why this got downvoted. The "how can you be tolerant when you don't tolerate intolerance" thing needs to be made fun of relentlessly until it stops being a thing.
- visualR 13y agoHow do you know Eich is intolerant? Maybe he is just misguided on an issue that really shouldnt be up to him. No one said tolerate intolerance, but considering the response to Eich, some proportionality is needed.
- wonderzombie 13y agoUm, how could his actions not suggest intolerance? He contributed money to a campaign which essentially persecutes a minority. In what universe is that not bigoted? "He didn't mean it" is a ridiculously flimsy defense.
- visualR 13y agoMaybe he thinks marriage should be between opposite sex for religious reasons but has no problem with civil unions that grants the same legal benefits. While not a progressive view, not the same as a Klansman.
- SolarNet 13y agoUsing religion as an excuse for bigotry still means you're a bigot. Religions are personal things, and should only affect your life, not other people's.
- visualR 13y ago@SolarNet You seem pretty absolute in determining who is a bigot, and do not recognize that there is a spectrum. Obviously one's religion does not justify bigotry. But it does distort one's world view and can explain why someone might support Prop 8 without being a person who hates and is disgusted by homosexuals. Education is the best response to this, not economic sanctions.
- influx 13y agoNow we are in the situation where a Mormon can not be a CEO. This should worry us all, even if you disagree with their ideals.
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- untog 13y agoWould you support a company whose CEO was a dazzling, intelligent, brilliant racist? Or anti-semite? I don't understand how being brilliant means that everyone should ignore that you're also a bigot. Presumably if he had no talent then he'd be fair game?
- visualR 13y agoIs he a bigot? "A bigot is someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust or hatred." I don't think he does that. He just wrongly thinks the state shouldnt recognize same sex marriage.
- rafe33 13y agoNo. He doesn't just think it. He donated a substantial amount of money to force his views on others.
- visualR 13y agoIt was a ballot initiative in 2008. We have a constitution to prevent the will of the majority violating the rights of a minority. Its too bad it was up to voters. But he still has a right to take a side without fear of economic retribution.
- SolarNet 13y agoEconomic retribution from the government the first amendment does not protect your rights with respect to things like keeping a job. If you call your boss an asshole to his face on a regular basis, you are going to be fired. Which is why we have laws (separate from the amendments) which ensure people can't be fired for their race/gender/etc. These laws have nothing to do with the first amendment because they don't involve the government.
- visualR 13y agoLiberals would not like it if the Catholic Church used its members to lobby for a person to be fired for their stance on abortion. Don't use Firefox, fine. But actively lobbying to take away someone's livelihood is not a proportional response in this case.