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Civil liberties. That's what all this is about. And he used his money to take civil liberties away from a group of people. That was a mistake. A costly one.

waterlesscloud 13y ago
It's easy to frame immigration as a human rights issue. Only somewhat more challenging to frame climate change the same way. Political views are already covered under human rights via freedom of speech, thought, and conscience. Some people view animal rights as equivalent to human rights. These are not fundamentally different things. At most it's a matter of framing.
- cgh 13y ago
  If he had funded some sort of anti-climate change thing then I'd guess there would be a similar sort of controversy. Although in that case, he would have been more ridiculed than anything else.
joelrunyon 13y ago
This assumes that marriage is a civil right (it's not directly mentioned within the bill of rights) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights
- avmich 13y ago
  Should we update the Bill? Heck, should we join Lessig's efforts - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Constitution_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Constitution_of_the_Uni... ?
avmich 13y ago
To whom? I'm disagreeing with Brendan on that opinion. That was $1000 - and I was thinking about donating an equivalent amount to the other cause before I learned I'm way too late. But having him step down? Now, we can have our - even good - corporations run by moral people - scratch that: by people whose most important virtue is morality. That could be good. Good for everybody. But I'm not so sure - so I'd hesitate to demand Brendan to step down. Because he has quite a talent to be useful in other important places. Or, alternatively - what would you think about my original question? Should we closely scrutinize executives on their beliefs across the whole spectrum? I suspect there are other important issues, besides LGBT opinions.

waterlesscloud 13y ago

It's easy to frame immigration as a human rights issue. Only somewhat more challenging to frame climate change the same way. Political views are already covered under human rights via freedom of speech, thought, and conscience. Some people view animal rights as equivalent to human rights. These are not fundamentally different things. At most it's a matter of framing.

cgh 13y ago
If he had funded some sort of anti-climate change thing then I'd guess there would be a similar sort of controversy. Although in that case, he would have been more ridiculed than anything else.

joelrunyon 13y ago

This assumes that marriage is a civil right (it's not directly mentioned within the bill of rights) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights

avmich 13y ago
Should we update the Bill? Heck, should we join Lessig's efforts - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Constitution_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Constitution_of_the_Uni... ?

avmich 13y ago

To whom? I'm disagreeing with Brendan on that opinion. That was $1000 - and I was thinking about donating an equivalent amount to the other cause before I learned I'm way too late. But having him step down? Now, we can have our - even good - corporations run by moral people - scratch that: by people whose most important virtue is morality. That could be good. Good for everybody. But I'm not so sure - so I'd hesitate to demand Brendan to step down. Because he has quite a talent to be useful in other important places. Or, alternatively - what would you think about my original question? Should we closely scrutinize executives on their beliefs across the whole spectrum? I suspect there are other important issues, besides LGBT opinions.