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Very awesome and direct response by Nest. Kudos. Oftentimes, recalls or other safety notices do not adequately spell out specific issues, merely allude to a va

Very awesome and direct response by Nest. Kudos. Oftentimes, recalls or other safety notices do not adequately spell out specific issues, merely allude to a vague "safety issue." Transparency is good.

dfc 13y ago
> we observed a unique combination of circumstances that caused us to > question whether the Nest Wave could be unintentionally activated. You think that counts as "spelling out specific issues"? That is not very transparent to me. Compare Nest's "specifics" with cperciva's response to a security bug in tarsnap: http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2011-01-18-tarsnap-critical-security-bug.html http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2011-01-18-tarsnap-critical-...
- erichurkman 13y ago
  Fair enough, but for a consumer product, it's specific at least from the recalls and safety warnings I've been exposed to as a consumer (car recalls, child safety products, food, etc).
  - dfc 13y ago
    Excerpt from most recent smoke alarm recall from CPSC: > In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission > (CPSC), Universal Security Instruments Inc., of Owings Mills, Md., is > voluntarily recalling about 34,000 smoke alarms. The smoke alarms can > fail to alarm when smoke or fire is present. A capacitor in the alarm > can burn out, releasing smoke and melting the cover. > Universal has received three reports of alarms failing, releasing > smoke. There has been one report of minor smoke damage to the wall of a > mobile home. No injuries have been reported. > Consumers can identify the recalled models by removing the alarm cover > from its base and looking for the manufacture date code and model > number. The smoke alarms are made of white plastic and have the > manufacture date code and model number imprinted on the back of the > alarm. https://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2000/CPSC-Universal-Security-Instruments-Announce-Recall-of-Smoke-Alarms/ https://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2000/CPSC-Universal-Security...
    - userbinator 13y ago
      In other words, a smoke-emitting smoke alarm?
      - epochwolf 13y ago
        Must be made in Britain. Their fire extinguishers have a tendency to ignite on use. (According to the IT Crowd tv series)
        growupkids 13y ago
        And their realistic screensavers.

dfc 13y ago

> we observed a unique combination of circumstances that caused us to > question whether the Nest Wave could be unintentionally activated. You think that counts as "spelling out specific issues"? That is not very transparent to me. Compare Nest's "specifics" with cperciva's response to a security bug in tarsnap: http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2011-01-18-tarsnap-critical-security-bug.html http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2011-01-18-tarsnap-critical-...

erichurkman 13y ago
Fair enough, but for a consumer product, it's specific at least from the recalls and safety warnings I've been exposed to as a consumer (car recalls, child safety products, food, etc).
- dfc 13y ago
  Excerpt from most recent smoke alarm recall from CPSC: > In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission > (CPSC), Universal Security Instruments Inc., of Owings Mills, Md., is > voluntarily recalling about 34,000 smoke alarms. The smoke alarms can > fail to alarm when smoke or fire is present. A capacitor in the alarm > can burn out, releasing smoke and melting the cover. > Universal has received three reports of alarms failing, releasing > smoke. There has been one report of minor smoke damage to the wall of a > mobile home. No injuries have been reported. > Consumers can identify the recalled models by removing the alarm cover > from its base and looking for the manufacture date code and model > number. The smoke alarms are made of white plastic and have the > manufacture date code and model number imprinted on the back of the > alarm. https://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2000/CPSC-Universal-Security-Instruments-Announce-Recall-of-Smoke-Alarms/ https://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2000/CPSC-Universal-Security...
  - userbinator 13y ago
    In other words, a smoke-emitting smoke alarm?
    - epochwolf 13y ago
      Must be made in Britain. Their fire extinguishers have a tendency to ignite on use. (According to the IT Crowd tv series)
      - growupkids 13y ago
        And their realistic screensavers.