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There is a difference between having a legal right to horrible beliefs (something most posters here, I think, support), and having an expectation that those bel

by jonahx 13y ago

There is a difference between having a legal right to horrible beliefs (something most posters here, I think, support), and having an expectation that those beliefs have no effect on your opportunities when you are seeking a highly public job that impacts millions of diverse people. Many of those people, myself included, probably don't buy the party line that you can completely divorce business decisions from deeply held personal beliefs. Would you feel the same way if he'd donated to some far-right group that was against intermarriage between blacks and whites? What about something even more extreme? I don't see how the situation would be fundamentally different, or how your argument that this reaction is "too bad" would no longer apply.

Einstalbert 13y ago
I would feel the same way if he contributed a million dollars to something far more extreme, and I am not sure if it would carry any more or less weight if that extremity were suddenly as personal or close to home as is the matter of gay marriage. Some people do like to hide behind the concept that, if you're not gay then why are you having X, Y, Z opinion in this conversation; I wanted to throw it out there that, as a gay man that loves his boyfriend but also loves people's opinions and the right to have them, this seems like a damn shame. Mozilla wasn't going to become some bastion for social counter-productivity just because one man, even in the CEO position, held a certain number of opinions; I trust him more than that, I trust Mozilla more than that, and I trust our ability to find out and handle that if it were indeed to happen.
- jonahx 13y ago
  I respect your considered opinion, then, even though I strongly disagree with it. I will point that, if you didn't trust him more than that, if you didn't trust Mozilla more than that, and if you didn't trust our ability to sniff out and handle such a situation, then I'm assuming your opinion would be different? If so, it's worth considering that your trust may not be shared by most people, and there are good reasons, in general, for skepticism. It's also worth considering that when the consequences are large, even a small risk may not be acceptable.

by jonahx 13y ago

Einstalbert 13y ago

I would feel the same way if he contributed a million dollars to something far more extreme, and I am not sure if it would carry any more or less weight if that extremity were suddenly as personal or close to home as is the matter of gay marriage. Some people do like to hide behind the concept that, if you're not gay then why are you having X, Y, Z opinion in this conversation; I wanted to throw it out there that, as a gay man that loves his boyfriend but also loves people's opinions and the right to have them, this seems like a damn shame. Mozilla wasn't going to become some bastion for social counter-productivity just because one man, even in the CEO position, held a certain number of opinions; I trust him more than that, I trust Mozilla more than that, and I trust our ability to find out and handle that if it were indeed to happen.

jonahx 13y ago
I respect your considered opinion, then, even though I strongly disagree with it. I will point that, if you didn't trust him more than that, if you didn't trust Mozilla more than that, and if you didn't trust our ability to sniff out and handle such a situation, then I'm assuming your opinion would be different? If so, it's worth considering that your trust may not be shared by most people, and there are good reasons, in general, for skepticism. It's also worth considering that when the consequences are large, even a small risk may not be acceptable.