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Is Visual Studio auto-complete significantly different from IntelliJ or Eclipse? There are many great editors an the continium between gedit and Visual Studio,

Is Visual Studio auto-complete significantly different from IntelliJ or Eclipse? There are many great editors an the continium between gedit and Visual Studio, such as Sublime, hell even vim and emacs have autocomplete plugins.

untaken 13y ago
C# support in IntelliJ would be a dream come true! (yes, I know about ReSharper - but that's just lipstick on a pig)
- coldtea 13y ago
  Pig? VS is considered one of the best IDEs out there. On par, if not better than IntelliJ.
  - vetinari 13y ago
    If it was better, it would not need ReSharper.
    - yesiamyourdad 13y ago
      I use both on a daily basis, and VS + Resharper beats the crap out of IntelliJ, IMO. My opinion might be different if I had to pay for my licenses, but independent of cost, VS wins.
jkrems 13y ago
Microsoft does great work in researching static code analysis, I only remember their auto-complete ten years ago for C++ code and it was miles ahead of anything else. It pops up in just the right moment and it just feels like a genuine "code assistant" instead of just an auto-complete. Unfortunately I don't really trust MS with developing great OSX software (see MS Office for Mac) so I'm not sure I'd want Visual Studio. But if they could pull of a proper port, it would be awesome.
- scg 13y ago
  MS Office for Mac is pretty well done IMHO
  - gilday 13y ago
    While I really like using MS Office 2013, I just can't use MS Office for Mac. It doesn't seem to integrate with the OS very well. I hope that the next version is better - hopefully retina screen support
    - arturhoo 13y ago
      MS Office for MAC received retina support in one of the last updates. Try updating your suite.
    - mirkules 13y ago
      I agree, it's painfully slow for anything but simple tasks. My former company (in)famously does everything in Excel (including Gant and flow charts), and being the only guy with OSX the load times were terrible, the UI sluggish and it crashed often. I was really quite surprised how snappy the UI was when looking at a coworker's windows box.
- NolF 13y ago
  Excel for Mac doesn't have the "Evaluate Formula" function and the Name Manager is crippled... (to name a few issues) Makes it really hard to do complex and robust development.
- 72deluxe 13y ago
  The auto-complete is truly wonderful. XCode's isn't too bad (but does anyone know how to get it to pop up the parameters in a function, same as VS Ctrl-Shift-Space????) but the real stinker I had to use was Borlands Codegear 2007. That whole think was rubbish and engaged in colossal disk-churning for auto-complete. The linker crashed and the IDE was buggy as anything. A shame. But VS auto-complete was a breath of fresh air afterwards.
rybosome 13y ago
I can't speak for IntelliJ (can never get the damn thing configured correctly), but Eclipse's autocomplete leaves a lot to be desired. This may be configurable, but my experience has been that it's finicky about when it will trigger. I appreciate Eclipse's openness (and I tend to work with open source languages), but I must admit that purely examining the quality of the tool, Visual Studio is leagues ahead.
- cmarschner 13y ago
  And Erich Gamma moved to MS three years ago...
  - 3825 13y ago
    Yup, part of the visual studio team. For others, watch him describe Visual Studio Online to Scott Hanselman on Channel 9. http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/azure-friday/erich-gamma-introduces-us-to-visual-studio-online-integrated-with-the-windows-azure-portal-part-1 http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/azure-friday/erich-gamma-intr... MP4 hotlink: http://media.ch9.ms/ch9/793e/d1b6ebda-d31b-413e-983e-1c698a8e793e/visualstudioonlineazurepart1_high.mp4 http://media.ch9.ms/ch9/793e/d1b6ebda-d31b-413e-983e-1c698a8...
tormeh 13y ago
It's fuzzy and instant. If you type "flow" it will treat it as if you searched for "stream". You don't need to know what things are named. You just search for what you think it may be and 9 times out of 10 intellisense will find what you're looking for. It's like having Google doing autocomplete for you.

untaken 13y ago

C# support in IntelliJ would be a dream come true! (yes, I know about ReSharper - but that's just lipstick on a pig)

coldtea 13y ago
Pig? VS is considered one of the best IDEs out there. On par, if not better than IntelliJ.
- vetinari 13y ago
  If it was better, it would not need ReSharper.
  - yesiamyourdad 13y ago
    I use both on a daily basis, and VS + Resharper beats the crap out of IntelliJ, IMO. My opinion might be different if I had to pay for my licenses, but independent of cost, VS wins.

jkrems 13y ago

Microsoft does great work in researching static code analysis, I only remember their auto-complete ten years ago for C++ code and it was miles ahead of anything else. It pops up in just the right moment and it just feels like a genuine "code assistant" instead of just an auto-complete. Unfortunately I don't really trust MS with developing great OSX software (see MS Office for Mac) so I'm not sure I'd want Visual Studio. But if they could pull of a proper port, it would be awesome.

scg 13y ago
MS Office for Mac is pretty well done IMHO
- gilday 13y ago
  While I really like using MS Office 2013, I just can't use MS Office for Mac. It doesn't seem to integrate with the OS very well. I hope that the next version is better - hopefully retina screen support
  - arturhoo 13y ago
    MS Office for MAC received retina support in one of the last updates. Try updating your suite.
  - mirkules 13y ago
    I agree, it's painfully slow for anything but simple tasks. My former company (in)famously does everything in Excel (including Gant and flow charts), and being the only guy with OSX the load times were terrible, the UI sluggish and it crashed often. I was really quite surprised how snappy the UI was when looking at a coworker's windows box.
NolF 13y ago
Excel for Mac doesn't have the "Evaluate Formula" function and the Name Manager is crippled... (to name a few issues) Makes it really hard to do complex and robust development.
72deluxe 13y ago
The auto-complete is truly wonderful. XCode's isn't too bad (but does anyone know how to get it to pop up the parameters in a function, same as VS Ctrl-Shift-Space????) but the real stinker I had to use was Borlands Codegear 2007. That whole think was rubbish and engaged in colossal disk-churning for auto-complete. The linker crashed and the IDE was buggy as anything. A shame. But VS auto-complete was a breath of fresh air afterwards.

rybosome 13y ago

I can't speak for IntelliJ (can never get the damn thing configured correctly), but Eclipse's autocomplete leaves a lot to be desired. This may be configurable, but my experience has been that it's finicky about when it will trigger. I appreciate Eclipse's openness (and I tend to work with open source languages), but I must admit that purely examining the quality of the tool, Visual Studio is leagues ahead.

cmarschner 13y ago
And Erich Gamma moved to MS three years ago...
- 3825 13y ago
  Yup, part of the visual studio team. For others, watch him describe Visual Studio Online to Scott Hanselman on Channel 9. http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/azure-friday/erich-gamma-introduces-us-to-visual-studio-online-integrated-with-the-windows-azure-portal-part-1 http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/azure-friday/erich-gamma-intr... MP4 hotlink: http://media.ch9.ms/ch9/793e/d1b6ebda-d31b-413e-983e-1c698a8e793e/visualstudioonlineazurepart1_high.mp4 http://media.ch9.ms/ch9/793e/d1b6ebda-d31b-413e-983e-1c698a8...

tormeh 13y ago

It's fuzzy and instant. If you type "flow" it will treat it as if you searched for "stream". You don't need to know what things are named. You just search for what you think it may be and 9 times out of 10 intellisense will find what you're looking for. It's like having Google doing autocomplete for you.