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The difference is that you were too late in the game. When image hosting started blowing up alternatives to Imgur were horrible, horrible ad farms with low qua

by korzun 13y ago

The difference is that you were too late in the game. When image hosting started blowing up alternatives to Imgur were horrible, horrible ad farms with low quality images that took several seconds to load. Comparing to what Imgur brings to the table and what you bring to the table, the different is not that drastic. Also you can't compare rules Reddit has in place now with rules it had years ago. There has been weeks where multiple image providers with shitty off the shelf solutions would be doing same thing you were trying to do after seeing Imgur take off every single day. Like I said, it's just too late at this point. Find another market.

korzun 13y ago
It's not a discouragement, so don't take it as such. I founded similar service before Imgur was born and was trying to compete with them way before you did. Word of advice, stop allowing NSFW. You do not want to go down that path, there is no money in it and it will impact your business in a negative way when you decide to become profitable.
- prawn 13y ago
  "It's not a discouragement, so don't take it as such." This after: "you have no chance trying to compete with Imgur on their own home turf especially that late in the game." "it's just too late at this point. Find another market." Reads like you're trying to discourage them to me.
  - korzun 13y ago
    Suggesting to focus on a different market is a discouragement now? You are on HN last time I checked.
    - nknighthb 13y ago
      Always has been. We're speaking English here, last time I checked. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discouraging http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discouraging
Sir_Cmpwn 13y ago
Thanks for the discouragement, but I'll continue trying. We aren't doing so bad now: http://www.reddit.com/domain/mediacru.sh/new http://www.reddit.com/domain/mediacru.sh/new There has been a great response to "HTML5 GIFs", though. Many people are very eager to use them instead of Imgur. The problem we face there is that a competing service has shown up and attracted more attention without consequence from the Reddit admins, so we're trying to get back into that area.
- thenewbtg 13y ago
  @Sir as a long time reddit user, your total blameshifting of your services inability to compete with gfycat, coming right after listening to you blameshift on why you couldn't compete with imgur, stinks to high heaven from here. At what point do you accept responsibility for the success and failure of your ability to create a service and make it popular? At what point do you stop externalizing the blame and get down to the hard task (or simply lucky outcome) of succeeding? For what it's worth, I just made a gfycat of a youtube video to share with my mom. So I decided to do the exact same process for your service that you tout as superior to gfycat. With gfycat, it was super simple to paste the youtube link, select the time frame and output the html5 video/gif. Done in under a minute. Your service has not actually completed an "upload" of the youtube video from a link no matter how long I've waited. Whenever I click on the random floating microphone near the top left of your services homepage, I simply see "an error occurred". I don't know how long I'm supposed to wait for this to work, but I just made 3 more youtube->gfycats while waiting. I'm not lying, here are the 3 youtube -> gfycats that finished while your service says "uploading" without a progress bar at all (gfycat has a working progress bar so I can helpfully tell that it downloads the youtube video in about 10-15 seconds). http://gfycat.com/UnitedGoodnaturedArcherfish http://gfycat.com/UnitedGoodnaturedArcherfish http://www.gfycat.com/RemoteWelltodoLadybird http://www.gfycat.com/RemoteWelltodoLadybird http://www.gfycat.com/FeminineCapitalCob http://www.gfycat.com/FeminineCapitalCob No offense but gfycat obviously blows your service out of the water, so perhaps you should play catch-up instead of blaming reddit admins? Which is silly anyway, because gfycat succeeds through comments and people sharing it and talking about it, not through owner spam or something else. For the record it's been over 10 minutes since I began a youtube -> html5 conversion on your site and it still says "uploading" and I think it's broken.

by korzun 13y ago

korzun 13y ago

It's not a discouragement, so don't take it as such. I founded similar service before Imgur was born and was trying to compete with them way before you did. Word of advice, stop allowing NSFW. You do not want to go down that path, there is no money in it and it will impact your business in a negative way when you decide to become profitable.

prawn 13y ago
"It's not a discouragement, so don't take it as such." This after: "you have no chance trying to compete with Imgur on their own home turf especially that late in the game." "it's just too late at this point. Find another market." Reads like you're trying to discourage them to me.
- korzun 13y ago
  Suggesting to focus on a different market is a discouragement now? You are on HN last time I checked.
  - nknighthb 13y ago
    Always has been. We're speaking English here, last time I checked. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discouraging http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discouraging

Sir_Cmpwn 13y ago

Thanks for the discouragement, but I'll continue trying. We aren't doing so bad now: http://www.reddit.com/domain/mediacru.sh/new http://www.reddit.com/domain/mediacru.sh/new There has been a great response to "HTML5 GIFs", though. Many people are very eager to use them instead of Imgur. The problem we face there is that a competing service has shown up and attracted more attention without consequence from the Reddit admins, so we're trying to get back into that area.

thenewbtg 13y ago
@Sir as a long time reddit user, your total blameshifting of your services inability to compete with gfycat, coming right after listening to you blameshift on why you couldn't compete with imgur, stinks to high heaven from here. At what point do you accept responsibility for the success and failure of your ability to create a service and make it popular? At what point do you stop externalizing the blame and get down to the hard task (or simply lucky outcome) of succeeding? For what it's worth, I just made a gfycat of a youtube video to share with my mom. So I decided to do the exact same process for your service that you tout as superior to gfycat. With gfycat, it was super simple to paste the youtube link, select the time frame and output the html5 video/gif. Done in under a minute. Your service has not actually completed an "upload" of the youtube video from a link no matter how long I've waited. Whenever I click on the random floating microphone near the top left of your services homepage, I simply see "an error occurred". I don't know how long I'm supposed to wait for this to work, but I just made 3 more youtube->gfycats while waiting. I'm not lying, here are the 3 youtube -> gfycats that finished while your service says "uploading" without a progress bar at all (gfycat has a working progress bar so I can helpfully tell that it downloads the youtube video in about 10-15 seconds). http://gfycat.com/UnitedGoodnaturedArcherfish http://gfycat.com/UnitedGoodnaturedArcherfish http://www.gfycat.com/RemoteWelltodoLadybird http://www.gfycat.com/RemoteWelltodoLadybird http://www.gfycat.com/FeminineCapitalCob http://www.gfycat.com/FeminineCapitalCob No offense but gfycat obviously blows your service out of the water, so perhaps you should play catch-up instead of blaming reddit admins? Which is silly anyway, because gfycat succeeds through comments and people sharing it and talking about it, not through owner spam or something else. For the record it's been over 10 minutes since I began a youtube -> html5 conversion on your site and it still says "uploading" and I think it's broken.