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So, should people have been tolerant of bigoted Southerners who supported Jim Crow? Should civil rights leaders have been tolerant of their views?

__abc 13y ago
Jim Crow and freedom of speech are two different things. I personally am ALL FOR equality independent of race, religion, or sexual orientation. I don't care what you do with your life. I do believe people should be equal, and laws against that should be abolished, but that's my opinion. That's why we have voting and elected officials. More importantly, democracy is also about being allowed to place dollars and votes in what YOU believe in independent of the current "accepted norms". It's not WRONG for someone to vote against equality, that's their right .... at least in this country.
- gress 13y ago
  Nobody has suppressed Eich's freedom of speech.
fiblye 13y ago
There's a difference between tolerating the viewpoint and tolerating the person. While a person may have archaic and bigoted views, forcing them to change only makes them more steadfast in their opinions. The reason there's been such a shift public perception of LGBT people these past few years is because more people are coming out and proving they're decent, normal people. Pressuring conservatives to quit their job for one political view only reinforces their opinion of X group trying to destroy Y tradition, and if this turns into a trend, I can imagine more organizations similar to Westboro Baptist Church sprouting up. In situations like this, "killing them with kindness" really is the answer.
vixen99 13y ago
What a crass comparison. "He said that his beliefs would not change the way he managed the company or how employees were treated at Mozilla. “I’m supporting all of the same benefits we’ve always supported across L.G.B.T. equality,” he said." The episode is sickening.
bstrand 13y ago
Marriage equality is law in California. So yes, we should be tolerant of those that opposed it and lost. That battle is over here. And there's absolutely no indication that Eich evidenced anti-gay bias at Mozilla, in policy or attitude. (I am not one to stand on it, but there is a difference between being opposed to same-sex marriage as a single issue and being anti-gay.) By all accounts, he has gracefully accepted the result and moved forward. What benefit is there to be had by asking more of him? The only way forward is reconciliation.

__abc 13y ago

Jim Crow and freedom of speech are two different things. I personally am ALL FOR equality independent of race, religion, or sexual orientation. I don't care what you do with your life. I do believe people should be equal, and laws against that should be abolished, but that's my opinion. That's why we have voting and elected officials. More importantly, democracy is also about being allowed to place dollars and votes in what YOU believe in independent of the current "accepted norms". It's not WRONG for someone to vote against equality, that's their right .... at least in this country.

gress 13y ago
Nobody has suppressed Eich's freedom of speech.

fiblye 13y ago

There's a difference between tolerating the viewpoint and tolerating the person. While a person may have archaic and bigoted views, forcing them to change only makes them more steadfast in their opinions. The reason there's been such a shift public perception of LGBT people these past few years is because more people are coming out and proving they're decent, normal people. Pressuring conservatives to quit their job for one political view only reinforces their opinion of X group trying to destroy Y tradition, and if this turns into a trend, I can imagine more organizations similar to Westboro Baptist Church sprouting up. In situations like this, "killing them with kindness" really is the answer.

vixen99 13y ago

What a crass comparison. "He said that his beliefs would not change the way he managed the company or how employees were treated at Mozilla. “I’m supporting all of the same benefits we’ve always supported across L.G.B.T. equality,” he said." The episode is sickening.

bstrand 13y ago

Marriage equality is law in California. So yes, we should be tolerant of those that opposed it and lost. That battle is over here. And there's absolutely no indication that Eich evidenced anti-gay bias at Mozilla, in policy or attitude. (I am not one to stand on it, but there is a difference between being opposed to same-sex marriage as a single issue and being anti-gay.) By all accounts, he has gracefully accepted the result and moved forward. What benefit is there to be had by asking more of him? The only way forward is reconciliation.