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So registering an opinion about the actions of a public figure is bullying, but making a monetary donation to restrict the rights of a minority is not?

return0 13y ago
I can't believe i have to say it, but donating to a cause, no matter how misguided, is meant to effect the public opinion in a certain way through certain channels. Asking for his job, his head or his property because of his opinions is bullying [mob rule is a better term], not civil discourse!
- ubernostrum 13y ago
  Proposition 8 was not a campaign to change the political views of people. It had but one purpose, and that purpose was to declare a subset of the population legally unequal to everyone else.
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  - return0 13y ago
    Everything is political, unless you presume that laws come from nature or from god. If we 're all defacto equal vs marriage, then i could marry my 6-year old cousin.
    - ubernostrum 13y ago
      If we 're all defacto equal vs marriage, then i could marry my 6-year old cousin. Just so you know, the official slippery-slope argument is "I could marry my horse".
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      - return0 13y ago
        i was referring to the appeal to nature rather than to a slippery slope
    - adl 13y ago
      Is your 6-year old cousin a consenting adult?
      - notdonspaulding 13y ago
        Why should the majority opinion get to say who's an adult and who's not? Aren't we taking away the rights of minors to marry by claiming that they're relationship would somehow be different to a traditional one? You anti-minor-marriage bigot you. (To be clear, this is sarcasm hopefully in the service of making a point. I am not arguing for marriage between adults and minors.)
      - timtas 13y ago
        C'mon now, illustrations of a slippery slope oughtn't start so far down the hill. So, what about a post-menopausal mother marrying her adult son? If "consenting adults" is the standard, it must be sanctioned as "marriage," yes? For the record, I'm not really against gay marriage, but I am staunchly against inconsistent reasoning in service of realpolitik.
mindslight 13y ago
The second half of your statement does not follow in any way, shape, or form. Both actions are essentially bullying, and the problem is that it's not truth or justice that has won today, but simply the currently-stronger bully.

return0 13y ago

I can't believe i have to say it, but donating to a cause, no matter how misguided, is meant to effect the public opinion in a certain way through certain channels. Asking for his job, his head or his property because of his opinions is bullying [mob rule is a better term], not civil discourse!

ubernostrum 13y ago
Proposition 8 was not a campaign to change the political views of people. It had but one purpose, and that purpose was to declare a subset of the population legally unequal to everyone else.
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- return0 13y ago
  Everything is political, unless you presume that laws come from nature or from god. If we 're all defacto equal vs marriage, then i could marry my 6-year old cousin.
  - ubernostrum 13y ago
    If we 're all defacto equal vs marriage, then i could marry my 6-year old cousin. Just so you know, the official slippery-slope argument is "I could marry my horse".
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    - return0 13y ago
      i was referring to the appeal to nature rather than to a slippery slope
  - adl 13y ago
    Is your 6-year old cousin a consenting adult?
    - notdonspaulding 13y ago
      Why should the majority opinion get to say who's an adult and who's not? Aren't we taking away the rights of minors to marry by claiming that they're relationship would somehow be different to a traditional one? You anti-minor-marriage bigot you. (To be clear, this is sarcasm hopefully in the service of making a point. I am not arguing for marriage between adults and minors.)
    - timtas 13y ago
      C'mon now, illustrations of a slippery slope oughtn't start so far down the hill. So, what about a post-menopausal mother marrying her adult son? If "consenting adults" is the standard, it must be sanctioned as "marriage," yes? For the record, I'm not really against gay marriage, but I am staunchly against inconsistent reasoning in service of realpolitik.

mindslight 13y ago

The second half of your statement does not follow in any way, shape, or form. Both actions are essentially bullying, and the problem is that it's not truth or justice that has won today, but simply the currently-stronger bully.