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"On the one hand, Brendan Eich had some beliefs that were against Mozilla's core values." Care to elaborate this? Last time I read, the Mozilla Manifeto[1] say

by agapos 13y ago

"On the one hand, Brendan Eich had some beliefs that were against Mozilla's core values." Care to elaborate this? Last time I read, the Mozilla Manifeto[1] says nothing about marriage rights or anything marginally related. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/

danudey 13y ago
The Mozilla Manifesto should not be taken to be the total sum of what Mozilla, as an organization, believes. Their Manifesto is about how they believe the internet should behave and be treated, not how the company itself should behave and act with regards to its own employees.
- agapos 13y ago
  "The Mozilla Manifesto should not be taken to be the total sum of what Mozilla, as an organization, believes." That's the deal. They all think differently on subjects unrelated to the Manifesto. True, there may be cases where the ratio is 99% against 1%. But it's still there.
_t5yy 13y ago
Exactly. Mozilla is about at the end of the day "openness" unfortunately for some people at mozilla, that means working with people who's views you might not be comfortable with. This is the whole point of working in and pushing for an open society.
- lcfg 13y ago
  This isn't what "open society" means. In your view, what would we do with people that discriminate based on gender, or skin colour? We cannot tolerate this. Any society must strive to ensure equal rights to its members. Edit: we're not going to have this debate for every minority group. This equal rights thing is happening, whether you like it or not.
- smsm42 13y ago
  It looks like some people's response to working with people who's views you might not be comfortable with is to get those people fired. Which is great, as long as you always hold the views which is approved by everybody and never step out of the line. Woe to you if you do.

by agapos 13y ago

danudey 13y ago

The Mozilla Manifesto should not be taken to be the total sum of what Mozilla, as an organization, believes. Their Manifesto is about how they believe the internet should behave and be treated, not how the company itself should behave and act with regards to its own employees.

agapos 13y ago
"The Mozilla Manifesto should not be taken to be the total sum of what Mozilla, as an organization, believes." That's the deal. They all think differently on subjects unrelated to the Manifesto. True, there may be cases where the ratio is 99% against 1%. But it's still there.

_t5yy 13y ago

Exactly. Mozilla is about at the end of the day "openness" unfortunately for some people at mozilla, that means working with people who's views you might not be comfortable with. This is the whole point of working in and pushing for an open society.

lcfg 13y ago
This isn't what "open society" means. In your view, what would we do with people that discriminate based on gender, or skin colour? We cannot tolerate this. Any society must strive to ensure equal rights to its members. Edit: we're not going to have this debate for every minority group. This equal rights thing is happening, whether you like it or not.
smsm42 13y ago
It looks like some people's response to working with people who's views you might not be comfortable with is to get those people fired. Which is great, as long as you always hold the views which is approved by everybody and never step out of the line. Woe to you if you do.