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What does this mean for the Mono project? http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page

by cwt137 13y ago

level 13y ago
This is still Windows only. If anything Mono now has more resources to pull from to improve their project.
- AaronFriel 13y ago
  Not true - there was an on-stage demo in MonoDevelop on OS X.
- ygra 13y ago
  It's a compiler. It takes input and produces output. There shouldn't be much in there that has any platform dependency.
  - pritambaral 13y ago
    For any compiler, platform-dependence of the compiler itself is strictly tied to platform-dependence of outputs. Edit: I confused roslyn with the recently announced AOT compiler.
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    - kyberias 13y ago
      What do you mean the output produced isn't platform-independent? This C# compiler produces assemblies that can be run on e.g. Mono runtime on Linux or on the .NET CLR runtime in Windows.
- noelherrick 13y ago
  The C# compiler targets the CLR (Mono or .NET). It produces IL which is similar to Java bytecode. The runtime then JIT's it, but I don't know if that's OS-specific or not.
yulaow 13y ago
Miguel showed personally on stage they integrated it in mono (in a version that, obviously, at the moment is not out there)
- candl 13y ago
  Yep, he's compiled on stage an IOS app with a version of Mono that had Roslyn integration.
  - Locke1689 13y ago
    And Roslyn is 100% Apache 2, so he didn't need our assistance or permission to do any of what we demoed (although we were glad to give it!).
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mythz 13y ago
Miguel just demo'ed building a C# iOS app using a modified Roslyn-powered C# compiler with Xamarin Studio on OSX.
ffk 13y ago
Mono isn't just a c# compiler, it is also a CLS Machine (virtual machine) and a set of libraries, among other things. If the VM was also put under apache 2, it is also unlikely that it would run on Linux out of the box. To use java as an example, this would be like open sourcing javac without open sourcing the JVM. (Just fyi, both javac and JVM are open source under the GPL license. :) [edit - Looks like large parts of .NET platform are being released] Still, this is a move to be applauded. Microsoft has been easing itself into a more open source friendly company over time by putting more projects under an open license. Microsoft ASP.NET MVC is another good example. There is an incomplete list of open source projects originating from Microsoft here: http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/directory.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/directory.aspx [edit above in brackets]

What does this mean for the Mono project? http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page

by cwt137 13y ago

What does this mean for the Mono project? http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page

level 13y ago

This is still Windows only. If anything Mono now has more resources to pull from to improve their project.

AaronFriel 13y ago
Not true - there was an on-stage demo in MonoDevelop on OS X.
ygra 13y ago
It's a compiler. It takes input and produces output. There shouldn't be much in there that has any platform dependency.
- pritambaral 13y ago
  For any compiler, platform-dependence of the compiler itself is strictly tied to platform-dependence of outputs. Edit: I confused roslyn with the recently announced AOT compiler.
  - deleted 13y ago
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  - kyberias 13y ago
    What do you mean the output produced isn't platform-independent? This C# compiler produces assemblies that can be run on e.g. Mono runtime on Linux or on the .NET CLR runtime in Windows.
noelherrick 13y ago
The C# compiler targets the CLR (Mono or .NET). It produces IL which is similar to Java bytecode. The runtime then JIT's it, but I don't know if that's OS-specific or not.

yulaow 13y ago

Miguel showed personally on stage they integrated it in mono (in a version that, obviously, at the moment is not out there)

candl 13y ago
Yep, he's compiled on stage an IOS app with a version of Mono that had Roslyn integration.
- Locke1689 13y ago
  And Roslyn is 100% Apache 2, so he didn't need our assistance or permission to do any of what we demoed (although we were glad to give it!).

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mythz 13y ago

Miguel just demo'ed building a C# iOS app using a modified Roslyn-powered C# compiler with Xamarin Studio on OSX.

ffk 13y ago

Mono isn't just a c# compiler, it is also a CLS Machine (virtual machine) and a set of libraries, among other things. If the VM was also put under apache 2, it is also unlikely that it would run on Linux out of the box. To use java as an example, this would be like open sourcing javac without open sourcing the JVM. (Just fyi, both javac and JVM are open source under the GPL license. :) [edit - Looks like large parts of .NET platform are being released] Still, this is a move to be applauded. Microsoft has been easing itself into a more open source friendly company over time by putting more projects under an open license. Microsoft ASP.NET MVC is another good example. There is an incomplete list of open source projects originating from Microsoft here: http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/directory.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/directory.aspx [edit above in brackets]