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I don't understand why the focus is so selective in terms of industry or career. Why not worry about the lack of gender diversity in other professions such as

by eplanit 13y ago

I don't understand why the focus is so selective in terms of industry or career. Why not worry about the lack of gender diversity in other professions such as nursing or construction?

jleyank 13y ago
Perhaps because neither of these professions (a) pay well or (b) are being hailed as the saviours of the 21st century? Still, 538 should gather and publish the corresponding data to provide the basis for discussion. From my fortunately limited experience in medical facilities, nurses sit close to the top of the not-a-doctor hierarchy. I have seen a number of male nurses, most of whom are used when brawn is required. I suspect we see a fallout of parenthood, possibly $$. Those who can (either gender), proceed to the MD/DO/DDS (or now whatever super-nurses are called, PA's?). Those who can't, for cost or time constraints, make it to nurse and do ok. Although the hours suck. In previous generations, nursing was a non-degreed (diploma) profession. It shifted to BA/BS-required in the 70's and 80's and for all I know is one where MA/MS is preferred for continued employment. Can one get a PhD in nursing, as I can imagine what the research might look like?
- jonwachob91 13y ago
  >> Can one get a PhD in nursing, as I can imagine what the research might look like? Yes. In a clinical setting they perform a lot of the same tasks that M.D.'s perform. There is actually a "great debate" of sorts going on clinical settings if Nurse Ph.Ds should be called Dr.s http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/health/policy/02docs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/health/policy/02docs.html?...
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  > In previous generations, nursing was a non-degreed (diploma) profession. It shifted to BA/BS-required in the 70's and 80's AFAIK, LPN/LVN programs generally do not require any degree, and at least some RN programs do not require a bachelor's degree (though the RN does require at least an associate's degree.)
azakai 13y ago
Many people worry about the lack of gender diversity in nursing and psychology for example. There are programs that try to bring more men into those fields. That stuff doesn't show up on hacker news because this is a tech news site, not a nursing or psychology site.
arbutus 13y ago
That's like saying male nurses should be more worried about the lack of female software engineers than the issues in their own field. This is Hacker News, not Construction News.

by eplanit 13y ago

I don't understand why the focus is so selective in terms of industry or career. Why not worry about the lack of gender diversity in other professions such as nursing or construction?

jleyank 13y ago

Perhaps because neither of these professions (a) pay well or (b) are being hailed as the saviours of the 21st century? Still, 538 should gather and publish the corresponding data to provide the basis for discussion. From my fortunately limited experience in medical facilities, nurses sit close to the top of the not-a-doctor hierarchy. I have seen a number of male nurses, most of whom are used when brawn is required. I suspect we see a fallout of parenthood, possibly $$. Those who can (either gender), proceed to the MD/DO/DDS (or now whatever super-nurses are called, PA's?). Those who can't, for cost or time constraints, make it to nurse and do ok. Although the hours suck. In previous generations, nursing was a non-degreed (diploma) profession. It shifted to BA/BS-required in the 70's and 80's and for all I know is one where MA/MS is preferred for continued employment. Can one get a PhD in nursing, as I can imagine what the research might look like?

jonwachob91 13y ago
>> Can one get a PhD in nursing, as I can imagine what the research might look like? Yes. In a clinical setting they perform a lot of the same tasks that M.D.'s perform. There is actually a "great debate" of sorts going on clinical settings if Nurse Ph.Ds should be called Dr.s http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/health/policy/02docs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/health/policy/02docs.html?...
dragonwriter 13y ago
> In previous generations, nursing was a non-degreed (diploma) profession. It shifted to BA/BS-required in the 70's and 80's AFAIK, LPN/LVN programs generally do not require any degree, and at least some RN programs do not require a bachelor's degree (though the RN does require at least an associate's degree.)

azakai 13y ago

Many people worry about the lack of gender diversity in nursing and psychology for example. There are programs that try to bring more men into those fields. That stuff doesn't show up on hacker news because this is a tech news site, not a nursing or psychology site.

arbutus 13y ago

That's like saying male nurses should be more worried about the lack of female software engineers than the issues in their own field. This is Hacker News, not Construction News.