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> Helping Castro's controlled economy before giving control of the government and said economy back to its people is unpopular. Unpopular with whom? Are you te

> Helping Castro's controlled economy before giving control of the government and said economy back to its people is unpopular. Unpopular with whom? Are you telling me that Cubans (meaning people who actually live there) support the embargo? Because that doesn't really make sense. > If I were in charge of the project, I figure I'd probably also avoid giving this project a U.S. brand as to not catch the attention of Cuban censors or propagandists. Yet, here were are... > At first glance, this seemed like a nice attempt at helping the Cubans get around these limitations. Well, making that true at first glance was the goal, right?

rickmzp 13y ago
Generally it has been unpopular with Cuban exiles, Cuban activists, and others in support of a free economy and free speech for Cubans. Recently there has been movement since power was transitioned to Raul that has had Cuba experiment with more economic freedoms[1]. Opinion has indeed evolved to want to open relations with Cuba in an effort to continue that trend[2]. (h/t dragonwriter for report) But even with that, there's along way to go for the Cuban people.[3]* The people who actually live there who saw the transition have been generally supportive of US intervention in Cuba. They have been supremely disappointed in the US for their failures in their interventions (Bay of Pigs disaster, agreeing to never invade and bring down Castro, ineffective sanctions, etc.). As you can imagine, most of the people who live there now have grown up with texts that describe the embargo in such a way that there is no way to see it as a response to the government in Cuba. The way people paint the full picture is privately through discussions, private texts, and secret communications back and forth with extended family in Miami. I hope that helps you make more sense of what conclusions can be drawn by the people there. Not sure if your final comment was a snide attempt at saying I'm missing depth on this issue, but this issue is quite important to me and my family and one we are pretty intimate with. If you've read carefully, you'll know I'm not arguing a solution, but simply giving you an important perspective that was surprisingly lacking for such a lengthy original post. But hey, hasn't the Internet taught me anything? Ok, back to work now! [1] http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/14/opinion/la-ed-cuba15-2010apr15 http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/14/opinion/la-ed-cuba15... [2] http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/publications/2014cubapoll/US-CubaPoll.pdf http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/publications/2014cubap... [3] http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/for-cubans-freedom-remains-elusive/2013/11/29/50201842-56bd-11e3-ba82-16ed03681809_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/for-cubans-freedom-re... *EDITED to add link and clarify
- kenrikm 13y ago
  I'm originally from Miami (now in SF) I still have a house in Miami and my Wife is Cuban. What people know about Cuba and the reality of Cuba are two different things. A lot of the time the thing that keeps people from starving there are the "Micro" Aid flights that happen every day by family members of people who are still stuck on that island. And the Cuban government charges for every pound of "aid" that comes in.

rickmzp 13y ago

Generally it has been unpopular with Cuban exiles, Cuban activists, and others in support of a free economy and free speech for Cubans. Recently there has been movement since power was transitioned to Raul that has had Cuba experiment with more economic freedoms[1]. Opinion has indeed evolved to want to open relations with Cuba in an effort to continue that trend[2]. (h/t dragonwriter for report) But even with that, there's along way to go for the Cuban people.[3]* The people who actually live there who saw the transition have been generally supportive of US intervention in Cuba. They have been supremely disappointed in the US for their failures in their interventions (Bay of Pigs disaster, agreeing to never invade and bring down Castro, ineffective sanctions, etc.). As you can imagine, most of the people who live there now have grown up with texts that describe the embargo in such a way that there is no way to see it as a response to the government in Cuba. The way people paint the full picture is privately through discussions, private texts, and secret communications back and forth with extended family in Miami. I hope that helps you make more sense of what conclusions can be drawn by the people there. Not sure if your final comment was a snide attempt at saying I'm missing depth on this issue, but this issue is quite important to me and my family and one we are pretty intimate with. If you've read carefully, you'll know I'm not arguing a solution, but simply giving you an important perspective that was surprisingly lacking for such a lengthy original post. But hey, hasn't the Internet taught me anything? Ok, back to work now! [1] http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/14/opinion/la-ed-cuba15-2010apr15 http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/14/opinion/la-ed-cuba15... [2] http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/publications/2014cubapoll/US-CubaPoll.pdf http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/publications/2014cubap... [3] http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/for-cubans-freedom-remains-elusive/2013/11/29/50201842-56bd-11e3-ba82-16ed03681809_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/for-cubans-freedom-re... *EDITED to add link and clarify

kenrikm 13y ago
I'm originally from Miami (now in SF) I still have a house in Miami and my Wife is Cuban. What people know about Cuba and the reality of Cuba are two different things. A lot of the time the thing that keeps people from starving there are the "Micro" Aid flights that happen every day by family members of people who are still stuck on that island. And the Cuban government charges for every pound of "aid" that comes in.