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Interestingly, and although all my anecdotal evidence disagrees with this, on the short term sleep deprivation supposedly does the opposite [0]. I have trouble

by jmhain 13y ago

Interestingly, and although all my anecdotal evidence disagrees with this, on the short term sleep deprivation supposedly does the opposite [0]. I have trouble with insomnia as well, and my experience is basically the same as yours. If I don't get at least eight hours, the brain fog is so thick I just can't function. It doesn't make sense to me however, because many people I know can function perfectly with little to no sleep. I've been looking into supplements to improve the quality of sleep. The most promising so far is glycine, which has at least some science demonstrating its efficacy (in both sleep quality and consequent daytime performance) [1]. Some anecdotal experience from reddit also makes it seem promising [2]. Also on my list to try are ZMA and low-dose melatonin. [0] http://www.nature.com/scitable/blog/mind-read/an_unconventional_release_from_depression http://www.nature.com/scitable/blog/mind-read/an_unconventio... [1] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3328957/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3328957/ [2] http://www.reddit.com/r/Supplements/comments/1a899m/what_do_people_think_of_glycine/ http://www.reddit.com/r/Supplements/comments/1a899m/what_do_...

noir_lord 13y ago
I've tried different supplements before though not glycine and melatonin is not something that is easy to get in the UK. It's hard to say in the singular case whether they work as I can't rule out the placebo effect what I've found for me though is that a good diet (lots of fish and fresh vegetables mostly) has as much or more of an impact. I'll certainly look into glycine though, thanks. EDIT: I took a look at the studies (well the overviews anyway) on Glycine, fascinating reading, I've ordered some from Amazon and will see, again, many thanks :)
pedalpete 13y ago
I've had insomnia my whole life (I don't say 'suffer', because sometimes I enjoy it, though pay the price the next day). I don't recommend melatonin, unless you've messed up your body clock and are trying to 'reset' when you go to sleep. ZMA is just Zing/Magnesium/B6 (I don't know why it isn't called ZMB, maybe that's too similar to zombie?). I haven't taken ZMA specifically, but I have taken all of those supplements together at the same time bumping up the levels of a multi. I wouldn't say I noticed a huge difference in sleep performance.

by jmhain 13y ago

noir_lord 13y ago

I've tried different supplements before though not glycine and melatonin is not something that is easy to get in the UK. It's hard to say in the singular case whether they work as I can't rule out the placebo effect what I've found for me though is that a good diet (lots of fish and fresh vegetables mostly) has as much or more of an impact. I'll certainly look into glycine though, thanks. EDIT: I took a look at the studies (well the overviews anyway) on Glycine, fascinating reading, I've ordered some from Amazon and will see, again, many thanks :)

pedalpete 13y ago

I've had insomnia my whole life (I don't say 'suffer', because sometimes I enjoy it, though pay the price the next day). I don't recommend melatonin, unless you've messed up your body clock and are trying to 'reset' when you go to sleep. ZMA is just Zing/Magnesium/B6 (I don't know why it isn't called ZMB, maybe that's too similar to zombie?). I haven't taken ZMA specifically, but I have taken all of those supplements together at the same time bumping up the levels of a multi. I wouldn't say I noticed a huge difference in sleep performance.