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A radical solution, I know, but why not just pay for your content? And, if it's not available at the right price/format/location, find other content? And, to t
by archgrove 13y ago
A radical solution, I know, but why not just pay for your content? And, if it's not available at the right price/format/location, find other content?
And, to those saying "This is for non-copyright/author approved stuff", I say "I was not born yesterday".
- dewey 13y ago"Find other content" is pretty easy to say if you are living in the so called "first world" where there's lots of content available.
- zanny 13y agoYou do have archive.orgs entire collection of public domain works available. I'm pretty sure it would take a lifetime or more to just consume all those. And personally, I spend sparing time looking at art on deviantart from the some hundred or so artists I follow, listening to the music and podcasts I follow on bandcamp / rss, watching youtube videos, and read the books and novels of authors from all over the Internet that publish their works online. Plenty of stuff to occupy oneself with. Not trying to argue in the OPs favor, just saying inherent to an Internet connection is access to effectively infinite material.
- mpnordland 13y agoAnd 90% of it is crap
- res0nat0r 13y agoBeing entertained is not a right.
- x1024 13y agoNot all Torrent users are a menace to society. I pay for my content, all of it. But the speed and UX of this app is quite obviously the next stage of evolution for the movie business. Sorry but I'm tired of overpriced popcorn and people slurping sodas next to me in the theater. I think Big Movie need to be forced into action and an app like PT makes "C&D letters" less and less of an option.
- jusben1369 13y agoInteresting. So your point is a) I want to see the latest movies the moment they are released therefore waiting for other legal ways like iTunes/Google Now etc aren't interesting but b) I don't want to do in a theatre. I hadn't really thought of that subgroup.
- vkjv 13y agoI'm also part of that sub-group. I absolutely despise going to the theater. In fact, I've toyed with the idea of of opening a theater with enforced etiquette, but ultimately determined that there was not sufficient demand. Since I do not think the value proposition of piracy is in my favor, I simply do without recently released content. However, if it existed in an easy to use home view capacity, I would definitely pay for it.
- motoford 13y agoI know of one theatre that has an adults only floor. Same movies and same start times as the general audience floor. No kids allowed, they have a bar, and people dress up to go there. I assume there are others doing the same.
- x1024 13y agoOr you could, you know, just download it.
- res0nat0r 13y agoAlamo Draft House has this exact policy and is thriving: https://drafthouse.com/ https://drafthouse.com/
- mikecaron 13y agoI submit to you this: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/movie_theater_layout http://theoatmeal.com/comics/movie_theater_layout
- Kociub 13y agoA radical solution, I know, but why not just pay for flying over someones land? And, if your destination is not available through another route at the right price/format, just take the bus?
- archgrove 13y agoPeople do. They're called "overflight fees". Often they're waived by mutually beneficial consent. For example, the USA often charges them when a flight doesn't originate or end in the US, but passes over US airspace. Next bizarre justification for benefiting from other peoples' commercial work without paying?
- icebraining 13y agoYour mistake is assuming there needs to be a justification.
- sturmeh 13y agoCertain content is unavailable for weeks/months in Australia, and certain distribution networks (e.g. Netflix) do not operate in Australia. Sure you can use a VPN and hack around a way to use Netflix, but that's a lesser experience than that offered by Popcorn Time. (I don't use either, I cry.)
- testrun 13y agoFrom Oz and we use Netflix (using VPN). It works fine.
- gejjaxxita 13y agoYou're breaking the law.
- MarkTee 13y agoNo, he's breaking the Netflix ToS.
- witty_username 13y agoFrom India, Netflix will probably arrive in 2050.
- toomuchtodo 13y agoYou're looking for a simple answer. There isn't one. Depriving someone of revenue or profit is way different than depriving them of physical property; as such, intellectual property "theft" doesn't carry the same stigma as theft in meat space. In short, you steal because you don't want to pay or you can't pay (either not available in your market or you don't have the money).
- DeusExMachina 13y agoI understand your point of finding other content, but usually people don't think that way. From a logical point of view it seems trivial, but psychologically it's different. One thing is peer pressure. People want to watch what their friends are watching, because they want to be able to discuss about the last movie or the last episode of a series. Another thing is that when someone wants to watch something, he is not casually browsing for any content, but wants to see something specific. Trailers and commercial do a really good job to captivate the interest of people. The effect, though, is that they will want to see that exact content, no matter how.
- Osmium 13y ago> One thing is peer pressure. People want to watch what their friends are watching, because they want to be able to discuss about the last movie or the last episode of a series. I agree with you, but I don't think "peer pressure" is the right way of stating it. It's more about existing in the same social context. It's also why a lot of people's conceptions of poverty are often far too limited. Poverty isn't just about not having money for food or shelter – you can have both and still be poor. It's about not being able to exist in that same realm as your peers.
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- Kudos 13y agoI live in Ireland and apart from Netflix I can't pay for digital video content. I also refuse to purchase DRMed content, for obvious reasons.
- isra017 13y agoWhat is netflix but DRMed content? I pay for netflix too. It's just a shame that content need to still be localized and movie selection is limited.
- Kesty 13y agoIf what you are looking for is not available, too hard to use, of a bad quality and/or cost too much you will turn to an alternative that is free, fast, easy to use even if is illegal. If you perceive that what are you doing is not actively harming anyone. It's like if you are running around town looking for a parking spot. You find a place where you could park your car, it's not bothering anyone and doesn't block anyone and anything else it just isn't marked. If you have a cheap real parking near, you probably wouldn't park in the unmarked spot. But if the first legal alternative is 5 miles away, a private parking charging you 10 bucks every hour, a maximum 5 minutes parking then you probably stop in the unmarked spot. It's legal ? No. It's actively bothering anyone other than the policeman writing you the ticket if he finds out ? No. You hope that they won't find out, and won't write you a ticket ? of course you do.
- zanny 13y agoAnd the other upside is your usage of the metaphorical parking spot doesn't stop anyone else from using it too. It is like infinite free questionable parking, or limited gated private parking with an hourly rate and those terrible parallel spots when they could have just made them perpendicular but want to make you hate the experience. (I think the analogy might be getting overloaded at this point)
- icebraining 13y agoif it's not available at the right price/format/location, find other content? You ask why not, but it's you who are trying to define limits to action, so it's you who should justify why.
- diminoten 13y agoBecause it's private property, and the owner says you can't have it. Every single person who has legitimate access to it has given the owner something in return for a license to use the product, with the agreement that they're not going to share it with other people. So that's why. Now explain to me why you're exempt from that? You're knowingly benefiting from someone else breaking their word. How are you not acting immorally?
- icebraining 13y agoBecause it's private property, and the owner says you can't have it. The owner can say whatever he or she wants. I can say you owe me money for reading my posts (which, by the way, are also under copyright!). That doesn't make it wrong for you to not pay it. Every single person who has legitimate access to it has given the owner something in return for a license to use the product, with the agreement that they're not going to share it with other people. It wasn't an agreement, they are terms set by an unjust monopoly that rests upon force. I consider it no more unfair than eating the salt collected during the Salt March.
- diminoten 13y ago> I can say you owe me money for reading my posts (which, by the way, are also under copyright!). That doesn't make it wrong for you to not pay it. Reading? No (you agreed to allow your comments to be read when you posted them). Using your comments elsewhere without attribution? Yes. You never agreed to that. And it was an agreement, and no it was not unjust. Yes, it is a monopoly, and no it doesn't rest on force, but does that matter? You don't have to have every song or movie that's ever been made. You are not entitled to them unless you strike an agreement with the owner of the property.
- drcube 13y agoBecause they don't offer content for sale anymore. You can rent it for the same price you used to buy it for though, if you submit to some pretty onerous restrictions, the occasional rootkit, and DRM, and give up any hope of owning what you bought. Is that the radical solution you're referring to?