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From first reading, this makes it look as if ISPs will be unable to offer eg elevated weighting to specific VoIP traffic unless that's offered by the ISP thems

From first reading, this makes it look as if ISPs will be unable to offer eg elevated weighting to specific VoIP traffic unless that's offered by the ISP themselves. I want my VoIP trunks to my exchange to have better QoS than my Skype chats. I'm not convinced this is a good thing.

icebraining 13y ago
I want my VoIP trunks to my exchange to have better QoS than my Skype chats. Then configure your router to do so?
- timthorn 13y ago
  That works for my link from the PoP to my router, but not beyond the PoP.
dspillett 13y ago
I think it is more like "unable to offer eg elevated weighting to specific VoIP traffic unless that is specifically requested by their users" - which means they can't discriminate between services for their financial benefit rather than because that is what their users want (favouring skype over google's hangout unless Google pay them a wodge of cash, or vice versa, for instance). They would be able to give weighting to VoIP traffic generally by my understanding, assuming that they can correctly identify the traffic of course, so they can still perform good QoS practise to stop large bulk data transfer (P2P sharing, huge HTTP transfers) causing massively inflated latency for more interactive traffic (VoIP, small HTTP(S) transfers, ...) where that matters.
belorn 13y ago
In addition, there is demand on the part of content, applications and services providers, for the provision of transmission services based on flexible quality parameters, including lower levels of priority for traffic which is not time- sensitive. The possibility for content, applications and service providers to negotiate such flexible quality of service levels with providers of electronic communications may also be necessary for the provision of certain services such as machine-to-machine (M2M) communications. Providers of content, applications and services and providers of electronic communications should therefore continue to be free to conclude specialised services agreements on defined levels of quality of service as long as such agreements do not impair the quality of internet access service. -http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+AMD+A7-2014-0190+237-244+DOC+PDF+V0//EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//...
nknighthb 13y ago
Skype is VoIP traffic, and it should have equal priority with all other VoIP traffic.
pjc50 13y ago
Do you want your VoIP to have higher QoS than my Skype? In which case that's a problem.

icebraining 13y ago

I want my VoIP trunks to my exchange to have better QoS than my Skype chats. Then configure your router to do so?

timthorn 13y ago
That works for my link from the PoP to my router, but not beyond the PoP.

dspillett 13y ago

I think it is more like "unable to offer eg elevated weighting to specific VoIP traffic unless that is specifically requested by their users" - which means they can't discriminate between services for their financial benefit rather than because that is what their users want (favouring skype over google's hangout unless Google pay them a wodge of cash, or vice versa, for instance). They would be able to give weighting to VoIP traffic generally by my understanding, assuming that they can correctly identify the traffic of course, so they can still perform good QoS practise to stop large bulk data transfer (P2P sharing, huge HTTP transfers) causing massively inflated latency for more interactive traffic (VoIP, small HTTP(S) transfers, ...) where that matters.

belorn 13y ago

In addition, there is demand on the part of content, applications and services providers, for the provision of transmission services based on flexible quality parameters, including lower levels of priority for traffic which is not time- sensitive. The possibility for content, applications and service providers to negotiate such flexible quality of service levels with providers of electronic communications may also be necessary for the provision of certain services such as machine-to-machine (M2M) communications. Providers of content, applications and services and providers of electronic communications should therefore continue to be free to conclude specialised services agreements on defined levels of quality of service as long as such agreements do not impair the quality of internet access service. -http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+AMD+A7-2014-0190+237-244+DOC+PDF+V0//EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//...

nknighthb 13y ago

Skype is VoIP traffic, and it should have equal priority with all other VoIP traffic.

pjc50 13y ago

Do you want your VoIP to have higher QoS than my Skype? In which case that's a problem.