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One question: when is facebook joining? My Answer: It will have to break the walls eventually as they have mentioned it before themselves. When I dont know but

by shayan 19y ago

One question: when is facebook joining? My Answer: It will have to break the walls eventually as they have mentioned it before themselves. When I dont know but they will do it eventually. Maybe when developers realize they can reach a much bigger market, a lot easier and faster with Opensocial compared to facebook, and they start developing a lot more products for them. Or maybe when Facebook creates its very own applications (their web-wide upcoming ad network is a sign of this) for OpenSocial.

Goladus 19y ago
http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/bloggers-block-3-dreaming-in-browser.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/bloggers-block-3-dre... Oh, sure, they've made a few half-assed attempts to make IE standards-compliant, sort of, but only after making many full-assed attempts to distort those standards to give Microsoft competitive advantages. I've heard that directly from folks working on the relevant teams over there. Microsoft cheerfully shows up at the standards meetings to make damn sure they screw up the APIs for everyone else. You know. Microsoft-style. Sorta like how DirectX was bugly compared to OpenGL. Or Win32 compared to Xnix. Or MFC compared to any sane object system (e.g. TurboPascal and TurboC). Or COM compared to CORBA. (I mean, you have to work hard to be worse than CORBA.) Microsoft has always been awful at making APIs, always always always, and I've decided over the years to credit this to malice rather than incompetence. Microsoft isn't incompetent, whatever else they might be. Burdened, yes; incompetent, no. My question is on whose terms will they join?
- shayan 19y ago
  who are you referring to, Facebook or Microsoft? and whose terms to join what, OpenSocial?
  - Goladus 19y ago
    I'm speculating that Facebook may try to use Microsoft's strategy of mucking up standards to gain a competitive advantage
    - shayan 19y ago
      but at this point I think if there will be any standards it would be OpenSocial, i.e. Google, rather than Facebook with their platform. I dont think it will be that easy to pull off what Microsoft did, for anyone else, the web is open and no one can create a competitive advantage by setting standards anymore. There will be standards but only those that are open and not locked down by one site or company.

by shayan 19y ago

Goladus 19y ago

http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/bloggers-block-3-dreaming-in-browser.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/bloggers-block-3-dre... Oh, sure, they've made a few half-assed attempts to make IE standards-compliant, sort of, but only after making many full-assed attempts to distort those standards to give Microsoft competitive advantages. I've heard that directly from folks working on the relevant teams over there. Microsoft cheerfully shows up at the standards meetings to make damn sure they screw up the APIs for everyone else. You know. Microsoft-style. Sorta like how DirectX was bugly compared to OpenGL. Or Win32 compared to Xnix. Or MFC compared to any sane object system (e.g. TurboPascal and TurboC). Or COM compared to CORBA. (I mean, you have to work hard to be worse than CORBA.) Microsoft has always been awful at making APIs, always always always, and I've decided over the years to credit this to malice rather than incompetence. Microsoft isn't incompetent, whatever else they might be. Burdened, yes; incompetent, no. My question is on whose terms will they join?

shayan 19y ago
who are you referring to, Facebook or Microsoft? and whose terms to join what, OpenSocial?
- Goladus 19y ago
  I'm speculating that Facebook may try to use Microsoft's strategy of mucking up standards to gain a competitive advantage
  - shayan 19y ago
    but at this point I think if there will be any standards it would be OpenSocial, i.e. Google, rather than Facebook with their platform. I dont think it will be that easy to pull off what Microsoft did, for anyone else, the web is open and no one can create a competitive advantage by setting standards anymore. There will be standards but only those that are open and not locked down by one site or company.