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My issues: 1) It's not that great for mouse/keyboard. 2) Having both Metro and Classic feels very disjointed. You get thrown into either depending on which ap

My issues: 1) It's not that great for mouse/keyboard. 2) Having both Metro and Classic feels very disjointed. You get thrown into either depending on which application you open.

toxicityj 13y ago
#2 has been my biggest issue with Win8 since beta. One of the first things I noticed was how weird it felt constantly switching between the two UIs. I could probably adapt to a metro-only UI (Lord knows I'd throw a fit along the way and it would take forever), but there is ZERO incentive to use it when the classic UI is there.
sliverstorm 13y ago
I actually like "Metro Start Menu" better than "Start Menu" for the keyboard. Put simply, "Start Menu" is a tree. Lots of diving into nodes and scrolling up and down. Conceptually convenient and easy with a mouse, but the 2D grid in Metro is more convenient with just a keyboard.
- stan_rogers 13y ago
  The up/down (navigate vertically in a list) and left/right (enter/leave submenus) arrow keys (which worked on the tree going back to Win95) were hard? Conceptually grouping applications/utilities (sometimes across different task groups) is easier in a 2D tiled environment? Searching obviates discoverability? Sorry, but I don't buy any of it. It was not difficult to drive with the keyboard before and it's no easier now - but a lot has been lost in the transition.
  - sliverstorm 13y ago
    I never used the word "hard". I know that the arrow keys can be used to navigate the start menu (how else would I navigate the start menu using the keyboard? Which is clearly what I am talking about), but it has always been more keystrokes to get around the tree-menu than to get around Metro's homescreen. Is 10 keystrokes instead of 5 keystrokes "hard"? Of course not. I'm not a paraplegic. Notice I used the word "convenient".

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My issues: 1) It's not that great for mouse/keyboard. 2) Having both Metro and Classic feels very disjointed. You get thrown into either depending on which ap

by macspoofing 13y ago

My issues: 1) It's not that great for mouse/keyboard. 2) Having both Metro and Classic feels very disjointed. You get thrown into either depending on which application you open.

toxicityj 13y ago
#2 has been my biggest issue with Win8 since beta. One of the first things I noticed was how weird it felt constantly switching between the two UIs. I could probably adapt to a metro-only UI (Lord knows I'd throw a fit along the way and it would take forever), but there is ZERO incentive to use it when the classic UI is there.
sliverstorm 13y ago
I actually like "Metro Start Menu" better than "Start Menu" for the keyboard. Put simply, "Start Menu" is a tree. Lots of diving into nodes and scrolling up and down. Conceptually convenient and easy with a mouse, but the 2D grid in Metro is more convenient with just a keyboard.
- stan_rogers 13y ago
  The up/down (navigate vertically in a list) and left/right (enter/leave submenus) arrow keys (which worked on the tree going back to Win95) were hard? Conceptually grouping applications/utilities (sometimes across different task groups) is easier in a 2D tiled environment? Searching obviates discoverability? Sorry, but I don't buy any of it. It was not difficult to drive with the keyboard before and it's no easier now - but a lot has been lost in the transition.
  - sliverstorm 13y ago
    I never used the word "hard". I know that the arrow keys can be used to navigate the start menu (how else would I navigate the start menu using the keyboard? Which is clearly what I am talking about), but it has always been more keystrokes to get around the tree-menu than to get around Metro's homescreen. Is 10 keystrokes instead of 5 keystrokes "hard"? Of course not. I'm not a paraplegic. Notice I used the word "convenient".