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It's incredibly difficult to keep people from using insecure technology. After the whatsapp facebook aquisition many of my friends looked for something differe
by lawl 13y ago
It's incredibly difficult to keep people from using insecure technology.
After the whatsapp facebook aquisition many of my friends looked for something different. So they choose Threema and Telegram. Which are both horrible.
Please guys. Use TextSecure [0].
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TextSecure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TextSecure
- miloshadzic 13y agoIt's even more difficult when alternatives are so scarce. For example TextSecure doesn't exist for iOS.
- glogla 13y agoI also doesn't exist on non-gooogle play devices, because the author thinks that getting software from somewhere else than walled garden is "repeating the desktop mistake all over again" [1] There might be iOS version, but there very likely never will be web version, or FxOS version or desktop version or anything like that. Which is really sad, because unlike Telegram authors, TextSecure's author is very good with crypto. [1]: it's a long read: https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/127 https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/127
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- kuschku 13y agoActually they've announced there's a web and browser-addon version in the works, so we might be able to get it on PC.
- foobarqux 13y agoDevs are working on a version for iOS.
- tptacek 13y agoI'm another enthusiastic vote for TextSecure; those guys work on TextSecure because they love the core problem of doing secure comms right, and it vividly shows in their architecture and the way they write about it.
- tinco 13y agoThe problem is that TextSecure is not seriously trying to be the next messaging app, and Threema and Telegram are. It would be nice if there was actually anything better than Telegram I could recommend to my friends, but there just isn't.
- foobarqux 13y agomoxie has openly invited devs to use TextSecure as a backend.
- aeontech 13y agoWhat's the consensus on CryptoCat? So far that seems the best secure candidate on iOS.
- tptacek 13y agoWhen people ask me directly, I tell them to avoid Cryptocat, in a spirit similar to the one I used in the 90s when telling people to avoid Sendmail.
- e1ven 13y agoTextSecure still doesn't have an iOS client. ;( Even if you don't feel iOS devices are trustworthy, as long as it's limited to the Android-only world, it's not going to gain a wide adoption.
- acqq 13y agoIt looks as they welcome serious development contributions, here's the github of TextSecure-iOS: https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure-iOS https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure-iOS They also experiment with alternative currency contributions: https://whispersystems.org/blog/bithub/ https://whispersystems.org/blog/bithub/ I think what I've never found is a honest description how much exactly we have to trust their server (on various levels, from the security aspects to the uptime aspects), and what would be the possibilities for involving other servers.
- MzHN 13y ago>Please guys. Use TextSecure. Believe me, I would love to. But I don't have an Android phone, and even if I did, not all my contacts have one. The reason WhatsApp is so popular is exactly this, it just works and it works on all mobile platforms.[1] [1] http://blog.textit.in/your-path-to-a-$16b-exit-build-a-j2me-app http://blog.textit.in/your-path-to-a-$16b-exit-build-a-j2me-...
- foobarqux 13y agoPeople are working on iOS version.
- ama729 13y agoBut as OP point out, iOS and Android are not the only platforms, there is also S40, symbian and Blackberry, which is where whatsapp shine.
- MzHN 13y agoI have WP8, as do most of my contacts. Right now I'm stuck with WhatsApp whether I like it or not.
- dublinben 13y ago>I have WP8 That's really your problem though.
- yatsyk 13y agoThis is bad advice. If your friends was happy with WhatsApp they don't care much what it the most secure messenger but probably want to use it on iOS or chat with friends with iPhones.
- znq 13y agoWhat's the problem with Threema? This looks fine to me: https://threema.ch/validation/ https://threema.ch/validation/ Threema seems to be using http://nacl.cr.yp.to/ http://nacl.cr.yp.to/ for anything crypto related.
- dublinben 13y agoIt's not open source, so it can't be trusted.
- znq 13y agoNaCl is open source. The client software itself is considered to be open sourced. Regardless, if you think that way you can also not trust the TextSecure binary you've downloaded frome the Play Store nor the Android phone you're using. I guess you've trust someone or start building your own hardware, mobile phone OS and instant messenger and make everyone else use it as well, otherwise there's no one to communicate with. However, those people will be in the same dilemma:can they trust you?
- znq 13y agoI wish people would not just downvote when they disagree, but state why they disagree.
- ifmw 13y agoI can't use TextSecure on my new Android device because it's not available on the Amazon App Store - it's only available on Play. The people I communicate with are on iOS where there's no TextSecure client. But the bit I dislike about TextSecure and whatsapp is that it's based on a phone number bound to the contactlist of your Google Play Android phone. I see a very strong movement towards kik messenger among my peers because usernames are so easy to deal with and share around in semi-public places.