I agree that productivity is more than dev environments. However productivity to me means something very simple, how quickly can you go from "I want x" to havi

I agree that productivity is more than dev environments. However productivity to me means something very simple, how quickly can you go from "I want x" to having a functional x. The more a tool is helpful in this regard the more productive it makes me. Maybe someone should start a service that actually measures various dev products in terms of how quickly they allow you to complete various dev tasks. For instance most web apps are just CRUD apps, it should be possible to benchmark various frameworks/tool to see how quickly they facilitate development....it should make for an exciting exercise :)