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I hope it works out for you. I'll be hesitant about the productivity pitch though...a lot of developers don't truly care about productivity in the way that one

by Edmond 13y ago

I hope it works out for you. I'll be hesitant about the productivity pitch though...a lot of developers don't truly care about productivity in the way that one would expect. Often what opinionated developers want is something that conforms to their opinions, productivity just becomes a convenient excuse for the choice of a particular tool. At least as someone who's spent a lot of time pitching productivity to developers I have become skeptical that developers value it as much as one would ordinarily expect. I am the developer of HiveMind (crudzilla.com), a web app platform that literally allows you to get a whole bunch of things done with writing little to no code. I find this pitch simply doesn't fly with a lot of developers :) The open source pitch for instance is something I am sure will get you some followers, though how big a following is not certain. Welcome aboard the entrepreneurial train!

_pmf_ 13y ago
> a lot of developers don't truly care about productivity in the way that one would expect A lot of developers are also mature enough not to think that the choice of the developing environment matters (above a reasonable base level, of course). All serious environments are configurable and programmable. It's a plain matter of taste what you use.
- Edmond 13y ago
  I agree that productivity is more than dev environments. However productivity to me means something very simple, how quickly can you go from "I want x" to having a functional x. The more a tool is helpful in this regard the more productive it makes me. Maybe someone should start a service that actually measures various dev products in terms of how quickly they allow you to complete various dev tasks. For instance most web apps are just CRUD apps, it should be possible to benchmark various frameworks/tool to see how quickly they facilitate development....it should make for an exciting exercise :)

by Edmond 13y ago

_pmf_ 13y ago

> a lot of developers don't truly care about productivity in the way that one would expect A lot of developers are also mature enough not to think that the choice of the developing environment matters (above a reasonable base level, of course). All serious environments are configurable and programmable. It's a plain matter of taste what you use.

Edmond 13y ago
I agree that productivity is more than dev environments. However productivity to me means something very simple, how quickly can you go from "I want x" to having a functional x. The more a tool is helpful in this regard the more productive it makes me. Maybe someone should start a service that actually measures various dev products in terms of how quickly they allow you to complete various dev tasks. For instance most web apps are just CRUD apps, it should be possible to benchmark various frameworks/tool to see how quickly they facilitate development....it should make for an exciting exercise :)