>Prop 8 unless I"m mistaken was all about who can get married in the eyes of the state, no? And that's exactly the problem. State governments are sanctioning

>Prop 8 unless I"m mistaken was all about who can get married in the eyes of the state, no? And that's exactly the problem. State governments are sanctioning what are really civil unions but calling them marriages. The obvious answer is that everyone should have civil unions through their state government, and marriage should be reserved for one's church (if one so wishes and has a church -- I don't). However, since that's not happening, it's clear to me that we have to recognize state marriages as de facto civil unions, and as such support everyone's right to participate. Since (to me) everyone should have the right But the easy answer would have been to move "marriage" as such to the care of churches, leaving only civil unions in the care of state governments.