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I meant "most of us" within the context of a reasonably intelligent tech community like Hacker News. I accept that this is an assumption, but I stand by it.

pfortuny 13y ago
Yep, I meant 'most of us' within the same context, an intelligent tech community like Hacker News and I stand by it as well. Hence? In the era of big data I am forced to say that you really need to back that assumption.
- sjwright 13y ago
  I don't have any objective data. It is an inference gleaned from the balance of reactions towards the issue. I admit it is plausible that many people holding the opposing view may choose to remain silent, however I contend that speaks to their ability to defend their stance intellectually. (The most compelling argument I've heard against gay marriage is "Eew." Colour me unimpressed.)
coldtea 13y ago
Is Brendan Eich not "reasonably intelligent"? Or do you self pick based on your own filter to match your prejudice?
- corin_ 13y ago
  He still said "most" within the sub-group of reasonably intelligent people, not "all". You may disagree with that claim, but one person not fitting into "most" means nothing.
  - coldtea 13y ago
    Well, "most" intelligent people in 1800's South were pro slavery. So?
    - sjwright 13y ago
      Hardly. Many of those intelligent people were slaves.
    - corin_ 13y ago
      As I said, you may disagree with the claim. I wasn't even personally supporting the claim in that comment, merely pointing out that it's possible for a.) the claim to be true and b.) Eich is intelligent - they aren't mutually exclusive based on his claim.
- sjwright 13y ago
  Brendan Eich is very intelligent. He just happens to be wrong on this issue, in my opinion. I self pick based on my own assessment of intellectual honesty and rigor. I have no doubt that our society will be considered similarly unenlightened a hundred years from now -- all we can hope for is some sympathy points for integrity and progress.

pfortuny 13y ago

Yep, I meant 'most of us' within the same context, an intelligent tech community like Hacker News and I stand by it as well. Hence? In the era of big data I am forced to say that you really need to back that assumption.

sjwright 13y ago
I don't have any objective data. It is an inference gleaned from the balance of reactions towards the issue. I admit it is plausible that many people holding the opposing view may choose to remain silent, however I contend that speaks to their ability to defend their stance intellectually. (The most compelling argument I've heard against gay marriage is "Eew." Colour me unimpressed.)

coldtea 13y ago

Is Brendan Eich not "reasonably intelligent"? Or do you self pick based on your own filter to match your prejudice?

corin_ 13y ago
He still said "most" within the sub-group of reasonably intelligent people, not "all". You may disagree with that claim, but one person not fitting into "most" means nothing.
- coldtea 13y ago
  Well, "most" intelligent people in 1800's South were pro slavery. So?
  - sjwright 13y ago
    Hardly. Many of those intelligent people were slaves.
  - corin_ 13y ago
    As I said, you may disagree with the claim. I wasn't even personally supporting the claim in that comment, merely pointing out that it's possible for a.) the claim to be true and b.) Eich is intelligent - they aren't mutually exclusive based on his claim.
sjwright 13y ago
Brendan Eich is very intelligent. He just happens to be wrong on this issue, in my opinion. I self pick based on my own assessment of intellectual honesty and rigor. I have no doubt that our society will be considered similarly unenlightened a hundred years from now -- all we can hope for is some sympathy points for integrity and progress.