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"Most of us" may be a bit of an overstatement, despite what the polls say (because the polls did not ask whether people saw it as comparable to slavery and suff
by pfortuny 13y ago
"Most of us" may be a bit of an overstatement, despite what the polls say (because the polls did not ask whether people saw it as comparable to slavery and suffrage).
It may seem I am cherry-picking your words, but as you are taking a stance based on his words, I think we are entitled to do the same with yours.
- sjwright 13y agoI meant "most of us" within the context of a reasonably intelligent tech community like Hacker News. I accept that this is an assumption, but I stand by it.
- pfortuny 13y agoYep, I meant 'most of us' within the same context, an intelligent tech community like Hacker News and I stand by it as well. Hence? In the era of big data I am forced to say that you really need to back that assumption.
- sjwright 13y agoI don't have any objective data. It is an inference gleaned from the balance of reactions towards the issue. I admit it is plausible that many people holding the opposing view may choose to remain silent, however I contend that speaks to their ability to defend their stance intellectually. (The most compelling argument I've heard against gay marriage is "Eew." Colour me unimpressed.)
- coldtea 13y agoIs Brendan Eich not "reasonably intelligent"? Or do you self pick based on your own filter to match your prejudice?
- corin_ 13y agoHe still said "most" within the sub-group of reasonably intelligent people, not "all". You may disagree with that claim, but one person not fitting into "most" means nothing.
- coldtea 13y agoWell, "most" intelligent people in 1800's South were pro slavery. So?
- sjwright 13y agoHardly. Many of those intelligent people were slaves.
- corin_ 13y agoAs I said, you may disagree with the claim. I wasn't even personally supporting the claim in that comment, merely pointing out that it's possible for a.) the claim to be true and b.) Eich is intelligent - they aren't mutually exclusive based on his claim.
- sjwright 13y agoBrendan Eich is very intelligent. He just happens to be wrong on this issue, in my opinion. I self pick based on my own assessment of intellectual honesty and rigor. I have no doubt that our society will be considered similarly unenlightened a hundred years from now -- all we can hope for is some sympathy points for integrity and progress.