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If the owner of my neighborhood coffee shop had gone on record as supporting SOPA/PIPA/et al, I would be strongly inclined to stop going to that coffeeshop and

If the owner of my neighborhood coffee shop had gone on record as supporting SOPA/PIPA/et al, I would be strongly inclined to stop going to that coffeeshop and giving them any of my money. I would also tell my friends about the situation so that they might also take similar actions if they felt so inclined. I can tell you that, in the context of this hypothetical situation, any arguments that my actions are uncalled-for because "coffee has nothing to do with the Internet" would not have much impact on me.

parennoob 13y ago
What if it was a co-operative store selling coffee and only the main manager was supporting SOPA? That's more like how the Firefox situation is. These boycotts will inevitably hurt Mozilla employees as a whole, both gay and straight -- way more than they will hurt Eich personally.
- vacri 13y ago
  A store that was also actively engaged in Fair Trade coffee, unlike its major competitors.
alecdbrooks 13y ago
While I might take a similar stand against the hypothetical coffee shop, I believe your analogy misses an additional point. Opposing gay marriage is favoring discrimination against gay people. It's detrimental to the organization and the community for someone apparently prejudiced against gay people to lead Mozilla, which appears to be the case. We'll see how the promised inclusivity efforts go. If he's genuinely committed to inclusivity, great! For the moment, however, I have reservations.
- MichaelGG 13y ago
  Perhaps people have a problem with hypocrisy? He's "committed to inclusivity", but we know from personal actions that he isn't really, and would be happy if governments and society continued to discriminate.
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joelrunyon 13y ago
Are you going to stop using javascript too? He helped invent that. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich
- MichaelGG 13y ago
  If it was possible, we'd have ditched JavaScript a long time ago. People seem upset over the fact that Mozilla leadership is choosing a person that admits to wanting to discriminate. People seem far less concerned about what assorted engineers might think or do.
- breadbox 13y ago
  I try to avoid using Javascript whenever possible, though that has nothing to do with Brendan Eich. And just to clarify, my hypothetical was in response to one specific argument. I didn't say that I personally was joining those calling to boycott Firefox. I honestly don't know how I feel, because it's not a simple matter. But I object to those who argue that it is a simple matter.

parennoob 13y ago

What if it was a co-operative store selling coffee and only the main manager was supporting SOPA? That's more like how the Firefox situation is. These boycotts will inevitably hurt Mozilla employees as a whole, both gay and straight -- way more than they will hurt Eich personally.

vacri 13y ago
A store that was also actively engaged in Fair Trade coffee, unlike its major competitors.

alecdbrooks 13y ago

While I might take a similar stand against the hypothetical coffee shop, I believe your analogy misses an additional point. Opposing gay marriage is favoring discrimination against gay people. It's detrimental to the organization and the community for someone apparently prejudiced against gay people to lead Mozilla, which appears to be the case. We'll see how the promised inclusivity efforts go. If he's genuinely committed to inclusivity, great! For the moment, however, I have reservations.

MichaelGG 13y ago
Perhaps people have a problem with hypocrisy? He's "committed to inclusivity", but we know from personal actions that he isn't really, and would be happy if governments and society continued to discriminate.

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joelrunyon 13y ago

Are you going to stop using javascript too? He helped invent that. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich

MichaelGG 13y ago
If it was possible, we'd have ditched JavaScript a long time ago. People seem upset over the fact that Mozilla leadership is choosing a person that admits to wanting to discriminate. People seem far less concerned about what assorted engineers might think or do.
breadbox 13y ago
I try to avoid using Javascript whenever possible, though that has nothing to do with Brendan Eich. And just to clarify, my hypothetical was in response to one specific argument. I didn't say that I personally was joining those calling to boycott Firefox. I honestly don't know how I feel, because it's not a simple matter. But I object to those who argue that it is a simple matter.