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Typical Americans. You have a growing problem with police corruption in your country and you can only talk about race relations. Cops who do the things describe

Typical Americans. You have a growing problem with police corruption in your country and you can only talk about race relations. Cops who do the things described in the article are breaking the law in other ways when you aren't watching. Recent events in New Mexico are a case in point. You should be thankful that corrupt cops are racist because they can't help giving themselves away by mistreating blacks. Until you folks break up the corrupt police brotherhood and take back control of law enforcement, things will only get worse. Fix the root problem and minority males will cease to have problems like this.

ritchiea 13y ago
Actually the stop & frisk policy the author is writing about is legal in NYC & ex-Mayor Bloomberg was a big proponent, going as far as saying New York police stop whites too often and nonwhites not often enough[0]. 0. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/nyregion/bloomberg-says-math-backs-police-stops-of-minorities.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/nyregion/bloomberg-says-ma...
- cperciva 13y ago
  the stop & frisk policy the author is writing about is legal There is a law which supports it. But that law might well be unconstitutional, in which case the policy it supports is not necessarily legal.
  - ritchiea 13y ago
    Correct, it may be unconstitutional but I believe the case is still in court and for now it is still policy in NYC. Since it is current NYC city policy and has not yet been definitively ruled unconstitutional I think it's fair to call the practice "legal in NYC."
nmrm 13y ago
The author's observation is that racial profiling is at the heart of why we have problems with police corruption. The end of the article argues that racial profiling allows a majority of citizens to ignore problems with policing because abuses are highly concentrated on "other people". This makes police corruption "not my problem". The problem isn't complacency with the abuses; the problem is that abuses are concentrated on minorities of the population so that the majority of voters/stakeholders don't have enough skin in the game to care.
jamesriver 13y ago
>Typical Americans. Must you begin your comment on an article about discrimination by using a stereotype?
ggchappell 13y ago
> You have a growing problem with police corruption in your country .... Do we? I'm not sure. Certainly in recent years there has been a notable increase in the number of well publicized incidents of police corruption (and use of excessive force and various rights violations). But is this because such incidents are becoming more common, or because they are more likely to be reported and/or publicized effectively? I honestly don't know the answer. I'd be interested in hard evidence on either side.
- mbubb 13y ago
  It is as much the militarization as the police as out and out corruption...
- larrys 13y ago
  "> You have a growing problem with police corruption in your country ...." "Do we? I'm not sure." Actually I find the parent comment such a wide generalization that's it's almost laughable.
rayiner 13y ago
NYPD doesn't really fit your narrative of the rogue police department where the racism is just a symptom. If you look at, for example salaries, it clear that the city has a pretty good handle on the police union. Stop and frisk is legal (so far), and an explicit policy of the city government. And its a policy that's largely supported by the upper classes that run the city. And the public has largely supported the increased police presence under Guilliani and Bloomberg.
kawliga 13y ago
> Typical Americans. Am I the only one getting extremely tired of the anti-american trolls?
owenjones 13y ago
Typical people, using tired anti-other-people sentiment to make glaring generalizations. Seriously, please take this nonsense elsewhere, many of us are well aware of the issues regarding law enforcement in this country.
Casseres 13y ago
> You have a growing problem with police corruption in your country I don't know. With advancements in technology, it's easier to catch and share such incidents. That doesn't necessarily mean there is more corruption though.

ritchiea 13y ago

Actually the stop & frisk policy the author is writing about is legal in NYC & ex-Mayor Bloomberg was a big proponent, going as far as saying New York police stop whites too often and nonwhites not often enough[0]. 0. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/nyregion/bloomberg-says-math-backs-police-stops-of-minorities.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/nyregion/bloomberg-says-ma...

cperciva 13y ago
the stop & frisk policy the author is writing about is legal There is a law which supports it. But that law might well be unconstitutional, in which case the policy it supports is not necessarily legal.
- ritchiea 13y ago
  Correct, it may be unconstitutional but I believe the case is still in court and for now it is still policy in NYC. Since it is current NYC city policy and has not yet been definitively ruled unconstitutional I think it's fair to call the practice "legal in NYC."

nmrm 13y ago

The author's observation is that racial profiling is at the heart of why we have problems with police corruption. The end of the article argues that racial profiling allows a majority of citizens to ignore problems with policing because abuses are highly concentrated on "other people". This makes police corruption "not my problem". The problem isn't complacency with the abuses; the problem is that abuses are concentrated on minorities of the population so that the majority of voters/stakeholders don't have enough skin in the game to care.

jamesriver 13y ago

>Typical Americans. Must you begin your comment on an article about discrimination by using a stereotype?

ggchappell 13y ago

> You have a growing problem with police corruption in your country .... Do we? I'm not sure. Certainly in recent years there has been a notable increase in the number of well publicized incidents of police corruption (and use of excessive force and various rights violations). But is this because such incidents are becoming more common, or because they are more likely to be reported and/or publicized effectively? I honestly don't know the answer. I'd be interested in hard evidence on either side.

mbubb 13y ago
It is as much the militarization as the police as out and out corruption...
larrys 13y ago
"> You have a growing problem with police corruption in your country ...." "Do we? I'm not sure." Actually I find the parent comment such a wide generalization that's it's almost laughable.

rayiner 13y ago

NYPD doesn't really fit your narrative of the rogue police department where the racism is just a symptom. If you look at, for example salaries, it clear that the city has a pretty good handle on the police union. Stop and frisk is legal (so far), and an explicit policy of the city government. And its a policy that's largely supported by the upper classes that run the city. And the public has largely supported the increased police presence under Guilliani and Bloomberg.

kawliga 13y ago

> Typical Americans. Am I the only one getting extremely tired of the anti-american trolls?

owenjones 13y ago

Typical people, using tired anti-other-people sentiment to make glaring generalizations. Seriously, please take this nonsense elsewhere, many of us are well aware of the issues regarding law enforcement in this country.

Casseres 13y ago

> You have a growing problem with police corruption in your country I don't know. With advancements in technology, it's easier to catch and share such incidents. That doesn't necessarily mean there is more corruption though.