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It seems disingenuous to call something "blatant" or "obvious" when that how obvious it is seems to be exactly aligned with people's political views. Not that
by esrauch 13y ago
It seems disingenuous to call something "blatant" or "obvious" when that how obvious it is seems to be exactly aligned with people's political views.
Not that my politics disagree with yours, but you are in effect just claiming that your side is obviously right a priori. More than half the country thinks you are wrong.
- ubernostrum 13y agoMore than half the country thinks you are wrong. And the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, and half-century-old widely-accepted jurisprudence on how it applies to marriage, says clearly that I'm right. It's a thoroughly settled question. The only people hoping for something to align with their political views are those who hope the Fourteenth Amendment would suddenly stop applying for their causes.
- esrauch 13y agoMany courts don't agree with your interpretation of the "half-century-old widely-accepted jurisprudence". How can you possibly claim it is a "thoroughly settled question" when gay marriage is only currently legal in 17 states?
- nknighthb 13y agoYou're pretty badly out of date. More than half the country has supported same-sex marriage for some time. Nearly 3/5ths now support it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/support-for-same-sex-marriage-hits-new-high-half-say-constitution-guarantees-right/2014/03/04/f737e87e-a3e5-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/support-for-same-sex-...
- tomcorrigan 13y agoFor some time being a couple of years since Prop 8 PASSED framed against a history of human existence of how many years?
- esrauch 13y agoForgive me if I'm skeptical of the accuracy of an online poll. Prop 8 failed the popular vote 6 years ago in what is generally characterized as the most gay-friendly state in the country. I am skeptical that the politics have shifted sufficiently that the median state now is further than the maximum state was in 2008. Realize that only 17 states have legalized gay marriage, and only three of those states have passed a popular vote (all three of which were in the past 18 months). I am skeptical that the median of this country is really as progressive as you think it is. Edit: in the three states that passed a popular vote, none were as high as you are claiming the entire country is. Maryland: 52%, Maine: 53%, Washington 54%
- nknighthb 13y agoOnline poll? What are you talking about? It's a Washington Post/ABC poll, those are conducted through standard phone methods[0]. It is widely known that the full population is more liberal than the voting population. Why do you think Republicans try to block voter registration and lower turnout? [0] http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/washington-post-abc-news-poll-march-2014-politics-obama-and-2014-midterms/855/ http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/washington-po...