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The US is fast becoming a culture where it's considered acceptable to run out of town (and out of work) people who fail to share the latest progressive ideas wi

by mdesq 13y ago

The US is fast becoming a culture where it's considered acceptable to run out of town (and out of work) people who fail to share the latest progressive ideas with us. Even if they were legally and peacefully exercising their constitutional rights, it's OK to hate those people and attempt to drive them into ruin. It's always a shorter hop than people think from today's in-crowd to the gulags of the next group to come along.

ubernostrum 13y ago
Tell me, if I were to send my liberal stormtroopers to begin denying some of your basic rights, would you defend that as me "peacefully exercising" my own rights? Proposition 8 was not an expression of opinion; it was an organized campaign to remove and permanently deny to a subset of the population a right recognized as fundamental within the United States. There is no possible way to spin that as anything other than... well, that.
- mdesq 13y ago
  Thanks for downvoting on the basis of disagreement.
vertex-four 13y ago
Yes, it's OK to have opinions about people, to express those opinions, and to choose whether or not to associate with any organisation you choose for any reason you choose. These are human rights (protected to varying degrees) across much of the world, and especially so in the USA. Freedom of speech means that I can publicly criticise people for what they have said and done. Freedom of association means that I can choose whether or not to associate with people or organisations based on whether I feel they support me. He has a freedom to say what he wants, believe what he wants, and donate to whatever campaigns he wants, according to SCOTUS. The Government cannot put him in prison for that. Any company is free to choose to hire him, and any person is free to criticise that company and refuse to associate with them. There are no freedoms being broken here, whatever you think. Which freedoms do you think we should not have? Alternatively, when do you think it is OK to exercise my freedom of speech?

by mdesq 13y ago

ubernostrum 13y ago

Tell me, if I were to send my liberal stormtroopers to begin denying some of your basic rights, would you defend that as me "peacefully exercising" my own rights? Proposition 8 was not an expression of opinion; it was an organized campaign to remove and permanently deny to a subset of the population a right recognized as fundamental within the United States. There is no possible way to spin that as anything other than... well, that.

mdesq 13y ago
Thanks for downvoting on the basis of disagreement.

vertex-four 13y ago

Yes, it's OK to have opinions about people, to express those opinions, and to choose whether or not to associate with any organisation you choose for any reason you choose. These are human rights (protected to varying degrees) across much of the world, and especially so in the USA. Freedom of speech means that I can publicly criticise people for what they have said and done. Freedom of association means that I can choose whether or not to associate with people or organisations based on whether I feel they support me. He has a freedom to say what he wants, believe what he wants, and donate to whatever campaigns he wants, according to SCOTUS. The Government cannot put him in prison for that. Any company is free to choose to hire him, and any person is free to criticise that company and refuse to associate with them. There are no freedoms being broken here, whatever you think. Which freedoms do you think we should not have? Alternatively, when do you think it is OK to exercise my freedom of speech?