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I think submitting a separate story would be better so it gets proper attention and can be discussed without derailing this submission. Hmm, yeah I guess I jus

by lawl 13y ago

I think submitting a separate story would be better so it gets proper attention and can be discussed without derailing this submission. Hmm, yeah I guess I just accused the mods of derailing.

dang 13y ago
I'm afraid you may have missed my point. I was deliberately intervening in this submission, because the thread sucked. Edit: it might be a bit better now. All: Unthoughtful comments should be downvoted. Have at it. Edit: I've mollified my wording slightly. Please downvote judiciously.
- lawl 13y ago
  Sorry. I wasn't talking about this. I was talking about the invitation to pitch in how to solve the general problem of hateful comments. Which I think shouldn't be discussed here, because it's not only a problem of this specific submission. Sorry if I misunderstood this invitation.
  - dang 13y ago
    We're entering a period of experimentation where things will be in flux for a while. For now, as one experiment, I'm adding moderation comments to specific posts. I won't keep doing it, because it's tiring and tedious to write (and no doubt to read). But I want to send a clear signal to the community that we're engaged, and also address the low-handing fruit of transparency concerns, if that makes sense.
- eaurouge 13y ago
  The problem with asking people to downvote is that some will downvote opinions they disagree with. What's your definition of "unthoughtful"?
  - dang 13y ago
    We don't have a great answer to that yet, so I'm using general terms and asking everyone to apply their own best-faith interpretation to them. We're going to solve this problem sooner or later, because so many of us are sick of it. But the specific form the solution takes has to evolve in the community. When systems are evolving, overspecification is a mistake. For that reason, I'm going to stick to commenting on particular examples for a while.

by lawl 13y ago

I think submitting a separate story would be better so it gets proper attention and can be discussed without derailing this submission. Hmm, yeah I guess I just accused the mods of derailing.

dang 13y ago

I'm afraid you may have missed my point. I was deliberately intervening in this submission, because the thread sucked. Edit: it might be a bit better now. All: Unthoughtful comments should be downvoted. Have at it. Edit: I've mollified my wording slightly. Please downvote judiciously.

lawl 13y ago
Sorry. I wasn't talking about this. I was talking about the invitation to pitch in how to solve the general problem of hateful comments. Which I think shouldn't be discussed here, because it's not only a problem of this specific submission. Sorry if I misunderstood this invitation.
- dang 13y ago
  We're entering a period of experimentation where things will be in flux for a while. For now, as one experiment, I'm adding moderation comments to specific posts. I won't keep doing it, because it's tiring and tedious to write (and no doubt to read). But I want to send a clear signal to the community that we're engaged, and also address the low-handing fruit of transparency concerns, if that makes sense.
eaurouge 13y ago
The problem with asking people to downvote is that some will downvote opinions they disagree with. What's your definition of "unthoughtful"?
- dang 13y ago
  We don't have a great answer to that yet, so I'm using general terms and asking everyone to apply their own best-faith interpretation to them. We're going to solve this problem sooner or later, because so many of us are sick of it. But the specific form the solution takes has to evolve in the community. When systems are evolving, overspecification is a mistake. For that reason, I'm going to stick to commenting on particular examples for a while.