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Hi there. I'm TV's thunk. To stay healthy and happy, just follow these simple rules: 1) To prevent cancer, go have some fun in the sun. 2) But to prevent skin
by thunk 17y ago
Hi there. I'm TV's thunk. To stay healthy and happy, just follow these simple rules:
1) To prevent cancer, go have some fun in the sun.
2) But to prevent skin cancer, stay out of the sun.
3) Avoid carbs and meat and regular produce.
4) And don't waste money on that organic stuff -- it's no better than normal!
5) You may want to stop wearing shoes, since they can mess up your feet.
6) Avoid alcohol, except for a couple heart-healthy drinks a day.
7) And most of all, don't stress out over this stuff too much -- it can cause heart disease.
The more you know. [star, rainbow]
- nreece 17y ago3) Avoid carbs and meat and regular produce. Meat is very low in carbs. In fact, meat (red and white) is high in protein, essential amino acids, zinc, vitamin B12, selenium, phosphorus, niacin, vitamin B6, iron and riboflavin. (Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat#Nutritional_benefits_and_concerns http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat#Nutritional_benefits_and_c...)
- randallsquared 17y ago"carbs and meat and regular produce" covers almost all food, doesn't it? I thought it was supposed to be funny. :)
- riffic 17y agoyeah but don't eat too much of it.
- dejb 17y agoAnd it there is substantial evidence that it (red meat) increases the risk of cancer.
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- cwan 17y agoThere's been quite a bit of controversy over some of these studies and how they measure the level of consumption and whether what you describe as an increase is just a "link"/correlation versus causation: e.g. http://www.acsh.org/factsfears/newsID.1210/news_detail.asp http://www.acsh.org/factsfears/newsID.1210/news_detail.asp - I think the "eat in moderation" idea applies here.
- dejb 17y agoCheck your sources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Council_on_Science_and_Health http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Council_on_Science_and... Some quotes "ACSH frequently defends industry against claims that its products create risks of injury, ill-health or death." "The ACSH has been accused of being a corporate front group in the guise of a neutral council on science."
- cwan 17y agoDoes that make their points any less valid? Would it not seem reasonable to look at both sides of the issue - especially given the issues that they raise with the studies (particularly given some of the oversimplifications in the media after they were published)?
- dejb 17y ago> Does that make their points any less valid? If you are relying on them to provide a reasonable and unbiased summary of the scientific consensus on an issue then yes. There is no reason to trust what they are saying. They are likely to have cherry picked the evidence to support their customer's views. Of course the points 'could' be valid but because of the lack of trust you would actually have to go to the source material to have any level of confidence. Perhaps you should do this.
- cwan 17y agoAlternatively, I could read their comments and read a few of the original studies (or at least their summaries) and find the questions that they raise are indeed valid - which you may choose to do as well. They did not provide a consensus view but rather pointed out the limitations of the study which the original authors also pointed out though others, like the conclusions you have made, have cherry picked from.
- abalashov 17y agoWell played. My exact reaction to most of these studies.
- WilliamLP 17y agoYou can find facts that are universally agreed upon in the field of health and nutrition, and which are demonstrated with evidence in a scientifically rigorous way. Unfortunately you have to wade through a ton of superstitious and alarmist bullshit, which goes all the way up to some professional nutritionists and major newspapers. This is a field that should be treated like a science, but for some reason often isn't. But saying there is much we don't know, so therefore it's reasonable to conclude we know nothing, is just a stupid logical fallacy. (It gets invoked in every religious debate too.)
- thunk 17y agoBut saying there is much we don't know, so therefore it's reasonable to conclude we know nothing I'll remember not to say that next time. :) Edit: By which I mean "That's not what I said."
- teeja 17y agoIf you live in a place where sunlight is scarce for months at a time in the winter, and you have no other guaranteed source, Vit. D deficiency is worth considering. I tried 400IU's a day in winter for a couple of years along with coffee. I noticed it enhanced the coffee buzz with a pleasant glow. The rest of the year I'll take my chances with sunlight.
- MikeCapone 17y agoI take 4000 UI daily in gelcaps (vit d if fat soluble, so dry tablets aren't absorbed as well).