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BTLE and WiFi are getting a bit easier thankfully. I know the TI CC3000 doesn't require intentional emitter testing if the recommended design is followed which

by tcas 13y ago

BTLE and WiFi are getting a bit easier thankfully. I know the TI CC3000 doesn't require intentional emitter testing if the recommended design is followed which saves a _lot_ of money and time. [0] Agreed that FCC unintentional emitter testing can be a pain, however, unless you're doing something very fancy it's not that hard to achieve, and it's not super expensive if you just need a low frequency unintentional testing. I'm not a lawyer, but I think you can self declare as well for unintentional emitters, just if you get caught the penalties are much stricter than if you can prove you went through a lab. [0] http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/CC3000_Product_Certification http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/CC3000_Product_Certi...

sokoloff 13y ago
Any idea on the cost for unintentional radiator testing (assuming a clean first-time pass)? I was assuming "4 figures and up" Edit (after the first two replies below): I'm assuming a slow-clock device, say 20 MHz or less, as that's the limit of my PCB design skills anyway...
- tcas 13y ago
  Depends on a lot of factors: how big (reputable) the company doing the testing is, how big your device is, what voltages your devices runs on, what frequencies are on the board, number of I/O, number of configurations to test (to explain the last part, say your device can either run off USB or ethernet, you'll probably need to test both). For something simple (clocks less than 200mhz), usually half a day of testing will cost between 1k and 2k I think. However, take these numbers with a grain of salt. EDIT: they can also help you track down leaks and pass through testing the first time as well (i.e. say you're leaking tons of RF through a badly shielded ethernet port. They can track it down, and will have copper tape so you can test to see if a simple patch will fix it, which if the testing is much more expensive might be an acceptable step to add to your assembly procedure vs. doing a respin of the board).
- Qworg 13y ago
  Our rule of thumb is 30k per product for all tests/rework/retests. And never assume a clean first-time pass.
- drone 13y ago
  I've run a few products through FCC and CE testing, all including motor drivers (noisy) and USB ports (computer peripheral requirements for CE), running on multiple power supplies. Each failed a few tests at least a few times, typical price from start to finish from the testing facility (Austin, TX) was an average of $16k/device from first test to passing report. Not including our costs for travel or re-work.

by tcas 13y ago

sokoloff 13y ago

Any idea on the cost for unintentional radiator testing (assuming a clean first-time pass)? I was assuming "4 figures and up" Edit (after the first two replies below): I'm assuming a slow-clock device, say 20 MHz or less, as that's the limit of my PCB design skills anyway...

tcas 13y ago
Depends on a lot of factors: how big (reputable) the company doing the testing is, how big your device is, what voltages your devices runs on, what frequencies are on the board, number of I/O, number of configurations to test (to explain the last part, say your device can either run off USB or ethernet, you'll probably need to test both). For something simple (clocks less than 200mhz), usually half a day of testing will cost between 1k and 2k I think. However, take these numbers with a grain of salt. EDIT: they can also help you track down leaks and pass through testing the first time as well (i.e. say you're leaking tons of RF through a badly shielded ethernet port. They can track it down, and will have copper tape so you can test to see if a simple patch will fix it, which if the testing is much more expensive might be an acceptable step to add to your assembly procedure vs. doing a respin of the board).
Qworg 13y ago
Our rule of thumb is 30k per product for all tests/rework/retests. And never assume a clean first-time pass.
drone 13y ago
I've run a few products through FCC and CE testing, all including motor drivers (noisy) and USB ports (computer peripheral requirements for CE), running on multiple power supplies. Each failed a few tests at least a few times, typical price from start to finish from the testing facility (Austin, TX) was an average of $16k/device from first test to passing report. Not including our costs for travel or re-work.